Thursday, February 9, 2012

Updated on Thursday, February 4th, 2010 at 8:50 pm in Basketball.

The Spoiled Generation?

The Spoiled Generation?

Are we witnessing the fruits of a spoiled generation of Hawkeye fan? Am I a part of that generation? Are you? Does it exist?

As I discussed this topic with a friend of mine as it relates to Iowa somehow pulling out of the nuclear winter it’s involved with right now related to Men’s Basketball attendance, we wondered how herculean the rebuilding efforts on that front will be.

It may be fairly significant, given that ‘m-m-m-m-my generation’ is now the target demographic as it relates to season ticket marketing campaigns.

I will be 39 next month. I have young children, who are the next generation of season ticket holders I have a little disposable income to direct towards entertainment. My father took me to Iowa games at the same age my children are right now, and those treks to Kinnick, The Fieldhouse and Carver Hawkeye Arena helped to solidify my passion for the Hawkeyes.

I was born in 1971, so here is what I knew Iowa athletics to be when I grew up:

BASKETBALL: My first memories of Iowa basketball are Ronnie Lester and the 1980 Final Four team. I was nine years old and thought those guys were the biggest stars in the world. The Hawks were on local TV as much as any basketball program in the nation thanks to Tommy Thompson and the Iowa Basketball Television Network. An Iowa basketball game was appointment television, and on the occasions where we could afford it, we’d make the 15 minute trip from West Branch to Iowa City to watch the action in the Fieldhouse and then Carver Hawkeye.

Iowa made it to the NCAA tournament far more often than not, and when it didn’t, we wondered what was the matter. As I got older, Iowa kept making it to NCAA tournaments, it started 18-0 in 1986-1987, it made it to the Elite Eight that season. It began seasons ranked #1 in the nation. It never lost a first round NCAA tournament game and over a 21 year span before Steve Alford was hired, Iowa made it to the Big Dance 16 out of 21 years. The years they did not make it, March felt absolutely hollow, as if a piece of you had somehow died.

My generation is not a collection of ‘good losers’, if there is such a thing. Our expectations are high because for much of our lives that was the reality. Until we began champing at the bit for the next level…well, we go it, didn’t we?

One NCAA tournament win in the first decade of the 2000’s is what we have now, and waning attendance in most of the last six or seven seasons is what we have now.

FOOTBALL: My first memories of Iowa football are Gordy Bohannon, Andre Tippett and the 1981 Rose Bowl season. I have no recollection of any of the 19 years that preceded that season, which did not produce one winning record. Not because I have blocked them out, but because I was 10.

I recall Iowa going to eight bowl games in the 1980’s, and winning three Big Ten titles in the span of 11 seasons. I recall Iowa being ranked #1 in the nation in 1985 and beating #2 ranked Michigan on a last second field goal. I recall Hayden Fry being a larger than life figure. The years Iowa didn’t make it to a bowl game were uncommon, and again, if felt like a little piece of you died when that did not happen.

Which made 1998-2000 nearly unbearable. Thank goodness Kirk Ferentz was able to turn things back around and put together a decade that nearly matched the magic of the 1980’s. In some ways it did, in some ways it exceeded that.

So it’s no surprise that Kinnick Stadium is sold out more often than not; people support a winner. It’s easier.

It’s no surprise that Carver Hawkeye Arena has seen attendance drop off, because it’s harder to support a team that doesn’t give you enough regular reminders of why you fell in love with it.

Who is still there? People older than I. The people that went to Kinnick during the 1960’s and 1970’s when there were fewer reasons to do so. People that were going to the Fieldhouse during the Dick Schultz era. Those are the people that are still going to Carver Hawkeye.

They must have made that generation a little more sturdy, or perhaps that generation cut its teeth with struggles on the football field and the basketball court, albeit the late 1960’s success on the court with Ralph Miller’s six pack, so they have more tolerance.

Winning cures all, I don’t doubt that one bit. If the Iowa Men’s basketball team starts winning again with regularity, the fans will come back, including a lot of fans from my generation.

So I pose this question to you; did my generation get ‘spoiled’ with the era of unparalleled success (or at least dating back to the 1950’s) we grew up with, and is that affecting attendance at Iowa Men’s basketball games? If so, is there anything short of consistently winning that is going to bring that generation back? Are we even spoiled to begin with? Shouldn’t we expect for Iowa to be at least an upper division finisher in the league?

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  • Caven

    I would at least expect us to make the NIT and win a few games in it as the worst we do since in theory you can finish slightly below 500 in conference games and still make the NIT.

  • HawkPrdatr40

    Is that affecting attendance at Iowa Men’s basketball games?

    No it’s the fact that Iowa Basketball is not fun to watch. It has nothing to do with a spoiled generation. It’s just that ugly. When your hoping to have a competitive game rather than a Win and being competitive constitutes a Win. How fun is that?

  • iowa13

    Jon, I understand your point, but you yourself said that this was the worst Iowa hoops team of your lifetime. We’re not spoiled, we’re underwhelmed by a program that’s taking way too long to rebound.

  • oldturkey

    I remember the 19 years of losing Football & attended at least 3 or 4 games a year! I also remember the Evy ERA of the wonderful 50s because I was in HS & College! That being said during my 60 years as a loyal Hawk fan the one thing we could count on was an exciting & winning BB team! I attended a few BB games but I never missed a game either on the radio or TV. When I moved to Florida in 2001 a friend tapped all the Iowa BB games & mailed them to me!I do not believe your generation is spoiled! We had a long list of great coaches O’Conner,Miller,Olsen, Raveling(Recruited one of the best classes in history)& of course Dr. Tom! What the Hawks need now is What ISU got with Johnny Orr, some one that can bring excitement & fun BB to Carver Arena! ISU didn’t win all their games but Hilton was full of Fans & most of all FUN!!

  • kuhntz

    Incredibly spoiled. I used to like to think Hawkeye fans were the best in the country. I used to think Hawkeye fans would support their teams even if they weren’t winning.

    Glad I’m too young to be a part of your generation Jon.

  • IATrainMaster101

    Generations from here on will be increasingly difficult/costly to keep and/or win back.

    Everything is instant, and expectations have become the same. Information is everywhere and options are endless. There are so many more items/venues of entertainment competing for the expendable dollar compared to when you and I were growing up.

  • tubahawk

    Great insight, Jon. I had not though of it from that perspective. There is a lot of truth (for me) in what you’ve written. If the Hawkeyes had a record/reputation of a Northwestern whe I grew up, I would likely be a lot less critical of today’s basketball team.

    The flip side of that, of course is I’d likely have a lot more apathy. Likely you would too and there would be no Hawkeye Nation.

    Cubs fans are a great example of what you’re eluding to in this article.

  • jokerjp

    I live 2.5 hours from IA City and until this season maintained a weekend package for basketball to go along with my season football tickets. I did not renew my BB tickets this year, after loyally watching two awful seasons with hope of rebuilding and supporting Lick just because Alford was gone.

    I think it’s a 50% split between not putting a competitive product on the floor, and the style of BB just being so painful to watch. I can hardly watch the games on TV at this point, and I never missed televised games in years prior. Losing is a factor, but they style of play and how outmatched the team looks is also a big issue for me.

    Label me a spoiled fan if you wish, but I doubt if I’ll be excited about BB even if they start winning with this system.

  • nilekinnick

    Similiar perspective, I was lucky to goto Iowa from 83 – 87, I got to see both the football & basketball team ranked #1. We were on springbreak when we lost that lead to UNLV and we were all going to head to New Orleans. I’ve been to 3 Rose Bowls and even though winnning the Orange was great I still need to see a Rose Bowl V. It was great but never got to the top at season end. Like the Cubs winning their division or having the most W’s but not winning the WS.

    In the 90′s the Tom Davis bb teams were not thought to be the most athletic, but they were so much more enjoyable to watch. Full court pressing up & down large momentum swings. This current style is frustrating. You watch them try to not commit a turnover for 30 seconds then heave a shot as time runs out about 20 times a game.

    Hoping next years bb recruits & returning players can allow us to have faith the future is brighter.

  • PeoriaHWKI

    Great article, John. One of my my favorites to read.

  • ChickenRancher

    If you were served a nice steak every night for dinner for 20 years on a silver platter and then you start getting a turd surved to you on that same silver platter and you ask, “What happened to my steak?”

    You can be called spoiled if they start serving you a nice burger every once in a while and you complain about that, but a turd? I don’t know about you but I don’t eat turds.

  • iowa13

    The last 29 years have easily been the longest sustained period of success and excellence in Iowa football history. Fry and Ferentz have built a program that will generate passion for a long, long time. Kinnick will always be full with Kirk at the helm, and even after he leaves us I doubt the program will suffer much in regards to fan support.

  • AHawk1

    Spoiled? When was the last time Iowa won the Big 10? and I’m not talking those Big 10 titles Alford claims he won.

  • PStop

    Spoiled is the wrong term to use. Discerning is more appropriate. Anymore, sports fans have a lot of choices on where to spend their money, what little of it people allocate to entertainment. The Big 10 network shows games in “stunning” HD. ESPN has about 36 channels showing all kinds of games. Currently, The U of Iowa is asking 15,000 people to drive to Iowa City, brave inclement weather, spend $20 on one ticket and find a parking spot all to watch a mediocre (at best) basketball team. These same people could watch a mediocre team from the comfort of their own home on a 50″ TV in high definition without spending any more money.

    If The U of I can put a product on the court that wins games, then people will come. It won’t happen until then. Even at that point, there are a lot of things competing for that almighty dollar.

  • HWX4LIF

    I grew up in this time period and I would say we were spoiled. I also agree with some of the posters…I would say 75% of the reason nobody is in CHA is winning and 25% of it is style of play. If we were sitting 15-8 right now and in the running for an NCAA bid, I don’t think there would be too many people saying “I am not going to watch that team because the style of play is boring” 10 years ago I would be crushed if we made it to the NIT, now if we were .500 I would be tickled. I am seeing flashes of improvement this year, I hope we give Lick one more year to continue the improvement and get some more inside game going. I believe he will need a few more W’s for that to happen.

  • eamusbuteo

    My love for Hawkeye football and Basketball began around 1990. And even though I was too young to appreciate the 80′s, I still feel like I was spoiled by Dr Tom and the fast paced, fun to watch teams of the 90′s. For football, my glory days are right now, which is very exciting. The 2000s were much better than the 1990s football-wise. Perhaps my fave basketball memory is Steve Alford’s first win as Iowa coach – over (then) #1 Uconn! Probably the high water mark of his tenure here.

  • tm3308

    I’m sorry, but there is a spoiled generation in Iowa. I’m just 19, and didn’t start to pay attention until Alford took over. So I did not experience the success of the ’80s and ’90s. I’ll admit that I didn’t even pick up my student season tickets until last week, and I regret not having done so months ago.

    I recall a poster saying earlier that people are frustrated with a rebuilding effort that has taken far too long. THAT is proof enough of a spoiled generation of fans. What on earth makes you think you know a damn thing about how long it should take to rebuild the absolute mess that Alford left us? You’ve never had to witness a true rebuilding process before for Iowa basketball. So why are you declaring that it’s taking too long? Because you’re an expert on the matter?

    I seem to remember a lot of other people thinking they were experts on Iowa sports, and thought we should have canned Ferentz and Parker as recently as November 7, 2008. Glad Barta didn’t listen to all you “experts” then.

    And you’ve got to remember, this team is VERY young. But they have a lot of the pieces in place, and Cody Larson should give us a good post presence when he arrives on campus next year. But Payne, May, and Cougill make up a very promising freshman class, and we still have Gatens, Fuller, and hopefully Tucker back as juniors next year, and Cole will benefit from another year of experience. I think the NIT isn’t an unreachable goal for next year.

    Give Lick two more years. If we haven’t shown signs of progress by then, then it’s time to move on. But he’s not got the program in any worse shape than it was when Alford left, so it’s not really hurting us to hold on. Just be a little more patient.

  • frydays

    I agree that the attendance issue is 50% lack of success, and 50% undesirable to watch basketball. In the 80′s and 90′s I would plan my week around watching the Hawks on TV, now there are games I miss, and it doesn’t really affect me. Consider this. Bowlsby keeps Dr. Tom, he coaches Iowa another 5-6 years, included in that time frame would have been 2 years of Dean Oliver, 3 years of Joey Range and 4 years of Nick Collison. Probably would have finished upper big ten, made NCAA tourney most years. Possibly another sweet 16 run. We then could have transitioned to maybe Bruce Pearl, or at the worse, Keno Davis. Keno would have kept his fathers pressing style. Keno would currently be in about his 5th or 6th year at Iowa. Alford buried this program in many different fronts.

  • MtownHawk

    I don’t think it’s a spoiled generation, but it may be spoiled individuals. I’m 35 and have been a Hawkeye fan since the days of Payne, Stokes and Carfino. I do see some members of every different generation of Hawkeye fans who are very impatient with this basketball program. This team was decimated by the players who transferred out last year and I can’t really blame the coach for that. I listened to sports talk radio guys saying before the season that they didn’t see any winnable conference games for the Hawks and we would go winless in conference. Now here we are just past half way through the conference season with two wins and the same people are saying they haven’t seen anything that makes them optimistic about the future under this coach. So… you admit we are better than you thought we’d be, but you’re not seeing any positives? It doesn’t add up to me. So my answer is there are lots of win now, instant gratification, the grass is greener, I’m taking my ball and going home people in every generation.

  • NorfolkNeb

    How about N.C. blue, after this year? The tarheals have alredy lost 10 games. North Carolina would be the definiton of ‘spoiled’ when it comes to Division I basketball. Let’s watch how they react after this season.

    I was a teen-ager during the Ralph Miller years at Iowa. Sure, we went undefeated in the Big-10 season and were one win from the final four. BUT, there were only two national games per week on TV, then. Now, there are 20 games on the average sports fan’s TV, each week. I had to listen to Iowa’s loss to Jacksonville, in the ‘elite eight’ on the radio. That probably boggles the mind of today’s sports fan.

    Illinois and Wisconsin have made the NCAA tourney each of the last ten years, but their fans are no more rabid then ours. UNI and ISU have earned higher RPI’s than the Hawks over that same decade. Hiring coaches, and sticking with them, is a cut-throat business in the last decade. There have probably been more fan’s hearts broken in Fayetteville, College Station, and Tulsa then in Iowa City in the last decade.

    What has Gonzaga, Villanova, Vanderbilt, or Maryland got, that Iowa doesn’t? Continutity. We’ll be spoiled again, if we stick with a guy who teaches the same values that Dr. Tom did (Coach Lick). Unless you want to be a NWN or PSU in BB, quit changing horses in the middle of the stream.

  • HawkeyeBK

    Bruce “Sky” King was my first Hawkeye hero, so, I remember Hawkeye sports in the 70′s. Not great, but, sure enjoyed listening to games and cheering the Hawkeyes. It just made the 1980′s that much better.

    I think times like the basketball team are going through now are when you can differentiate the more loyal Iowa fans from the bandwagon fans. The loyal fans still cheer for the team and refuse to attack or boo individual players no matter how bad they play. After all, they are our guys; working hard and doing their best. Sure, interest might wane a little.

    With regard to attendance, the current style of play may drive some fans away; however, I think the athletic departments have done a lot to undermine fan loyalty. They have gouged (IMO) the fans with high ticket prices just because they could (football being the worst offender). Now they (bball)want to play the loyalty/relationship card.

    Does anyone else remember how painful it was to watch the half-court 4-corner offense?

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