to riverhawk62-Now you’re just going from stupid to funny. Too bad your statements are so outlandish. No one will ever know if Pelini would beat Ferentz because the two teams don’t play each other. I don’t know who would win if they played each other this upcoming season. You have to remember, Pelini still has at least half his team made up of Callahan’s players who were not recruited to run Pelini’s style of offense. Ferentz has been at Iowa eleven years. He’s had plenty of time to establish his system and he’s had eleven consecutive recruiting classes. Give Pelini eleven recruiting classes and see where the Huskers are at. Comparing this year’s Nebraska team to this year’s Iowa team is like comparing apples to oranges. The same thing happened back in 1999 and 2000. Frank Solich took a loaded team into Iowa City and kicked Kirk Ferentz’s Iowa Hawkeyes asses! But in defense of Ferentz, he was stuck with Hayden Fry’s players. It takes at least four years to get the previous coach’s players out of the system. But that’s what is so remarkable about Pelini. He’s taken a previous coach’s players and in two years won 19 games, including two bowl games. Came within 4 points of going 13-1 this past year. And didn’t lose by much the previous year. Looks like we have a head coach just down interstate 80 over in Lincoln who has done an incredible job and has awoken a sleeping giant and Ferentz and the rest of the Iowa fans are thinking, ‘oh shit, not again!” Face it man, you are scared to think what just might happen in a year or two at Nebraska and the thought of Nebraska joining the Big Ten makes you shake in fear because you see Pelini recruiting 4 and 5 star blue chip athletes and winning and you see Nebraska glory coming back and what scares you the most – that Nebraska swagger is BACK!!! I just have one thing to say to you if Nebraska joins the Big Ten – WELCOME TO HELL !!!

Huskergal—really,now i mean really………..W/ the scheduale you play/have played,there is no way your above .500 in the BIG10.Iowa,OSU,Northwestern,Wisconsin,Indiana,PSU,MSU,Purdue all beat the bigred.Illinois,Mnn.Mich.,maybe,maybe not.BUT,the most OUTLANDISH situation NOW,is how for soooo long,you cornsuckers laffed @ the BIG10,but,now realize,for survival sake,you future MAY hinge on being a part of a conf. you have been so jealous of for so long.It will be a REAL treat to see the “swagger” of players,coaches & fans,wet their pants when the BIG10 comes w/ it’s HAMMER,squashing herby like a annoying gnat.

To Lukhawk-You are bringing up a subject, Iowa wrestling, that riverhawk62 and I have addressed several days ago. Had you taken the time to read my earlier comments you would have noticed that I am a die hard Iowa wrestling fan and that I have been to Carver Hawkeye Arena several times to watch Iowa wrestlers kick the shit out of their opponents. I live 30 miles outside of Iowa City. Iowa wrestling is the only Hawkeye sport that I cheer for. If Iowa and Nebraska were to wrestle each other, I’d sit on the Iowa side and hope to see Iowa dominate! Next time you care to weigh in on someone else’s argument, do your homework first before commenting.

To Lukhawk-It’s kinda’ funny how you think the Big 12 North is worthless but yet just a couple of years ago the North had an undefeated Missouri and an undefeated Kansas ranked in the top 10 heading into the last month of the season. Both teams came close to running the table and possibly being undefeated when the two met to play each other, with the winner possibly making it all the way to the National Championship Game. And where was Iowa ranked at the time? They were floundering near the bottom of the rankings. Just a question, when was the last time a Big Ten team played for the National Championship? Thought so. The Big 12 North was down last year. I’ll admit that. But like I told riverhawk62, it’s not Nebraska’s fault the rest of the North is weak. Nebraska is forced to play those teams. They have no choice. Just like Iowa is forced to play Indiana and Minnesota and Northwestern and Michigan. If it weren’t for Penn State and Ohio State, Iowa’s conference schedule would have been about as bad as Nebraska’s. You play the teams that the conference forces you to play and you set up some easy pre conference games and you hope to come out unscathed and put yourself in a position to be there in the end. And another point. I told riverhawk62 this-look at how many teams in the Big 12 North have had a coaching change in the last 3 years. Every team except Missouri. Any time a new coach comes in there will be big changes in offensive and defensive philosophies and new recruits brought in. That’s why the Big 12 North is down. Imagine if the Big Ten had an 80% change in head coaches. I’d be making fun of the Big Ten being weak. It’s all part of the game.

YOU r a *ucking MOORON huskerdreamer,……….THE huskers bring NOTHING,NADDA,ZERO to the Conf. OF THE BIG10.#1-this “school of higher”(huskerville)learning does not have the acedemics to get in.Look it up.#2-Nor do the cornleafs have the cache to be a part of the BIG10.#3-Putting nebraskas’ name in the same sentence w/ texas is laffable.Come on,go sit w/ the ‘ol crying-man @ memorial staduim(along w/ all the other racist,blue-hairs that sit in memeorial stadium)& relive the old days,while you hold-hands.The husker fan-base is the most football-stupid,insecure,whiny bunch of sore losing,excuse mongers the world has ever seen.It’s many-peoples-opinion:”Pussy-ass goof-balls & CORNY” is how the world looks @ U.EVERYONE agrees w/ this statement.YOUR footbal team sucks & any win is a hallow whim,based on a pop-warner schedule that the Iowa Hawkeyes would walk-thru.NO doubt.Better yet,go sit on uncle toms’lap,……………..living in the “bubble” you live in,you have no idea how the football-world looks @ your-kind.
Osborne WISHES,dearly,he could be a part of the BIG10.Tom “the fraud” Osborne,as people in the know refer to him,would get the beating-S he soooo richly deserves,IF that dream(that would turn into a nightmare)would ever come true.

I’ve made an observation about Ferentz as a coach. If you look at his win, loss record for each year, you’ll notice that Ferentz is only as good as his recruiting classes. His wins and losses depend on his players, not on him as a coach. When Ferentz took over as head coach at Iowa, it took a couple of years for his players to get on the field and start. Once they did, the Hawkeyes went from 1-10 and 3-8 his first two years to 7-5, 11-2, 10-3 and 10-2 the next four years. Once that run of talent graduated, then Iowa’s fortunes changed. They went back to mediocre. They went to 7-5, 6-7 and 6-6 the next three years. Then in came a new recruiting class with better talent. Iowa then goes 9-4 and 11-2. My point is, if Ferentz has a tremendous recruiting class, Iowa does well. If they don’t have a tremendous recruiting class, they don’t do well. Iowa’s fortunes don’t rest on Ferentz’s coaching abilities. They rest on the players. That’s a sign of a head coach who is only as good as his players. That’s not good. At Nebraska, Osborne won at least 9 games every year for 25 straight years. I’m not saying he AVERAGED 9 wins a year. His teams actually went out and WON at least 9 games EVERY year for 25 years. His wins were more about his coaching abilities than his players. That’s a sign of one hell of a coach! And the same can be said for Pelini early on in his coaching career. He won 9 games his first year with a team totally made up of Callahan’s players who were recruited to run the shitty west coast offense. He then won 10 games his second year with mostly Callahan’s players. Pelini’s wins are a result of coaching more than it is a result of talent. So the bottom line is – Iowa should have a great team this coming year due to the returning talent. But they have a ton of pressure on them to run the table. Because most of their talent graduates after this upcoming season is over and I’m not impressed with the incoming recruits. I think Iowa is looking at a huge let down after this upcoming year. This next season is probably Ferentz’s only shot he’ll ever get to play for a national championship. Whereas at Nebraska, Pelini finally will have a team that is at least half of his recruits. There will still be about 40% of Callahan’s players on the field but this will be Pelini’s first team where most of the starters will be guys he brought in. And his first two recruiting classes have been rated outstanding. I think Nebraska’s future looks better than Iowa’s due to the fact that Nebraska’s wins are more a result of coaching than players and at Iowa it’s the other way around. And Nebraska has the blue chip athletes coming into the program where Iowa is bringing in farm boys who played at small rural schools. So enjoy this year because the next few won’t be much fun for Iowa.

I think we have covered about every topic from every angle. While I bring up debatable and interesting ideas you continue to debase the argument with your immature name calling and references. Again, a sign of someone who has lost a debate. You still won’t show any proof that Osborne ever cheated and you continue to make claims that are untrue about him and Pelini and the Husker program as well. You resort to comedy and name calling rather than tackle the topics head on. If this were a college debate class you would be getting an F for a letter grade.

I realize that the talent pool for incoming college football players is very deep. My point was that when you compare the last two recruiting classes for Iowa to Nebraska’s, there is no comparison. Nebraska has pulled in 4 and 5 star athletes from big city schools that are big, fast and strong. Pelini has redshirted many of them and the ones he didn’t redshirt saw limited playing time this past season. Case in point – Dontravious Robinson, a big, strong tailback that possesses quickness and elusiveness. Case in point – Cody Green, a tall, strong dual threat quarterback that most of the nation were licking their chops over to recruit but he signed with Nebraska and will more than likely be the starting quarterback, putting Zach Lee on the bench. Case in point – Collins Okafor, the nation’s #1 fullback a year ago who has the speed to play tailback and has amazing hands when catching the football. Pelini redshirted him for future use. He’s waiting to knock the shit out of people this upcoming season. Case in point – Nebraska just signed the #1 running back out of Ohio and one of the nation’s top dual threat quarterbacks out of Florida. These guys all represent the future of Nebraska football. Whereas at Iowa, you have local farm kids being brought in to play. Nathan Miller who didn’t even get 1 star on Scouts.com and James Morris who will be an undersized, slow linebacker. And A.J. Derby who had impressive numbers but who did he play? Cedar Rapids Jefferson? Iowa City West? Davenport North? Just about any kid can put up big numbers against those schools. Will those players make an impact at Iowa? Probably not. They might have a good game or two but I don’t think they will consistently be impressive players.

You totally missed my point about Ferentz being only as good as his players. If you look at Iowa’s win, loss record after Ferentz’s first two years you will notice a spike up in wins when Ferentz brings in a great recruiting class and a drop down in wins when he doesn’t. If Ferentz was a tremendous coach he’d win 9 or 10 games every year, no matter what the talent on his team. That’s why I predict Iowa to have a very successful upcoming season. They have a ton of returning talent, they have all of their tough games at home and they don’t play a conference championship game. It’s a perfect storm type of situation for Iowa. So enjoy it while you can because once the season is over a ton of talent graduates and looking at Iowa’s last two recruiting classes, you won’t be having any more Cinderella seasons. I think once this upcoming season is over the Hawks will be back to 3 or 4 losses a year. If Ferentz doesn’t get it done this year, it won’t ever get done. Nebraska, on the other hand, will only get better because with each passing year, more and more of Callahan’s players graduate and more and more of Pelini’s blue chip recruits will get playing time. The talent pool will take a huge spike up on the starting offense and defense for Nebraska in the next two years. Pelini has set his team up for a tremendous run for some time to come. Just sit back and see how right I am.

Because of your immaturity and childish name calling, debating with you is like arguing with a retard. It’s pointless. I’m not going to persuade you and you’re not going to persuade me. I certainly hope not all Iowa fans are as obnoxious as you. And again, when are you going to get around to proving Osborne was a cheater and a fraud?

Hey jon,
Yeah i pushed his buttons,i admit,but the “air” about “some” fans from that fan-base are,well…..different.I have close family members that r gbr & well,@ times,…..anyway,i got what i wanted huskerman to read:Iowa is a solid football program,1 of the best in the country,led by arguably,the best Football coach(& person)in the US of A.
BTW:missed you & steve on mediacom last year.Any chance you 2 will be back in 2010??

To be one of the best you might have to play for a national title or two couched bag