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Should Iowa-Minnesota End Each Year?

Should Iowa-Minnesota End Each Year?

There was an interesting talk back session today on ESPN where they posed the question of whether Iowa and Penn State should play one another to end each team’s regular season.  You can read the exchange here.

I tend to side on traditions, and the Iowa-Minnesota game has ended the majority of Iowa’s regular seasons in my lifetime.  That being said, I wouldn’t mind something different.

The few exceptions to the Iowa-Minnesota season ender have been a few years where Iowa played Wisconsin at the end of the season.  That happened in back to back years in 2003 and 2004, to name two instances, and there was a lot on the line for both teams.

In 2003, the winner was basically going to get an invitation to the Outback Bowl.  The Hawkeyes had to play at Camp Randall that year, and Iowa jumped out to an early 7-0 lead on an 18 yard reverse run by Ramon Ochoa.  The Badgers scored the next 14 points to take a 14-7 halftime lead.  Robert Gallery gave a paint peeling halftime speech, but the Badgers tacked on another score early in the third quarter to give them a 21-7 lead.

The Hawkeyes scored the final 19 points of the game, including two field goals from Nate Kaeding (one from 50 yards) and Iowa won 26-21 and went on to beat Florida in the Outback Bowl.  That was dramatic.

The stakes were higher the following season in Kinnick Stadium, as the Badgers came into the game 9-1 and a win would have sent them to Barry Alvarez’s fourth Rose Bowl appearance.  They had All Americans along the front defensive line, and Drew Tate threw two first quarter interceptions, but that great Iowa defense did not yield.  Tate settled down and would throw three touchdowns (along with three picks) and the Iowa defense allowed just 186 yards and the Hawkeyes won 30-7, capitalizing on four Wisconsin turnovers.

The Hawkeyes won a share of the Big Ten title that day, with just one conference loss.  So the Big Ten championship was on the line before the teams took the field.  There have been just a handful of such games in Iowa football’s last 30 years; winner gets a title, the loser does not.

How often has that happened with Minnesota?  How often could that happen with Minnseota as the season ender?

Big Ten expansion could make this moot and meaningless.  However, until that day comes, I would certainly love to see the Hawks and Badgers close out each season.  They are the logical choice as they are one of Iowa’s two protected rivals that we see them play each year, with Minnesota being the other.  In fact, these three teams are the protected rivals for each other.

What are your thoughts?  Would you rather see Iowa play a different team to close out the regular season?

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  • tm3308

    I’m going to base this off of who I want to join the Big Ten (in a 14 team league): Notre Dame, Nebraska, Pitt. For the Big Ten’s Rivalry Week: Wisconsin vs. Minnesota (both schools’ fans regard this as their top rivalry), Michigan vs. OSU, PSU vs. Pitt, Michigan State vs. Notre Dame, Indiana vs. Purdue, Iowa vs. Nebraska, Northwestern vs. Illinois. That would be the most epic weekend of rivalries anywhere.

    We don’t have a real rivalry with Nebraska, but if there’s already the material there for a good one. If the Huskers join the Big Ten, then Nebraska-Iowa would heat up very, very quickly, IMO.

  • Edgiscript

    @TM3308: With the assumption of those 3 teams, that’s not a bad group. I’d be open to it.

    But with the way things are, I’d like to see the Big Ten adjust the schedule to make it so the most relevant games play out. I know that 1) they try to schedule in 2 year increments so you get a home and away with each team and 2) it’s very difficult to determine 1-2 years ahead of time who’s going to be relevant at that time. I mean what if Iowa’s end game switches over to Wisconsin and in 2 years Minnesota has got it together with a new stadium attracting some great recruits and Wisconsin gets on a string of bad luck and is irrelevant for a few years? So I’m not worried about it. Minnesota’s great. Wisconsin would be great. If they rotated with Minnesota 2 years and then Wisconsin for 2 years, that would great. As long as it’s the Big Ten and Iowa’s playing, it’s great.

  • Bryce

    Yes! Wisconsin and I have thought that for years! Minnesota game has become blah.

  • bjswenson

    Well, given the current state of Iowa scheduling, i think two options prevail over the dwindling Iowa vs Minnesota rivalry. (1) Move the Iowa State game to the last week of the season to make the in-state rivalry more dramatic and meaningful (but it’s not a conference game), or (2) schedule Penn St the last week of the season. Iowa and Penn State have had some of the best games in the Big 10 annually. If Iowa vs Penn St is not a rivalry, it will be soon, especially after the 2010 game is in primetime again.

    With the exception of carrying the goalposts out of the stadium again, I am not finding much value in the Battle for the Floyd of Rosedale anytime soon.

  • hawksontop2010

    like the comments except for the possibility of nebraska coming to the big 10… love the thought, but HIGHLY doubtful that will happen. Nebraska is on the verge of truly rebuilding their program back to greatness and they are in a perfect spot each year to be in the big 12 championship due to their holding in the extremely WEAK big 12 north. I don’t think they’ll readily give that up to enter into a tougher bracket. Chances are if the big ten would be realigned, it’d be East/West with Neb. being in with the Hawks, Wisconsin, MN, IL, MO (if they join), Northwestern. Chances are, however, that Neb. wont join and Purdue or Mich. St. would take their spot in the West. That would leave Ohio State, Michigan, Pitt, Penn St., Purdue or Mich. St., Indiana, and an unnamed team such as UCONN rounding up the East.

    That being said, agreed that the IA/Minnesota game is mum. I hate boring games as much as anyone, but look at IA’s schedule last year. They had to go through so much they barely had enough gas in the tank left to beat MN; if that had been Pitt or Nebraska we could have, at the least, gotten it handed to us. However, the return of Pitt vs. Penn St. would be enticing. I think the Big 10 will end up expanding to the Big 14, meaning we need to add 3 teams. Pitt would be nice, also Missouri with the prospect of this matchup turning into a border war, we’ll call it the “Honey War” (check your American history). The third team could very well be another Big East team, Rutgers or UCONN would be my guess. I pray UCONN, the thought of the Hawks having to set foot in the crappiness of NJ is just not ideal. Sounds bad, but we’re above that, sorry.

  • mgr4hawks

    I would love to see Iowa play a meaningful game at the end of the year. MN fans can get as mad as they want at this next statement. I would rather see IA/MN play in the middle of the year to give the Hawks an easier game in the middle of the year.(and to hawksontop: Iowa did not run out of gas. Iowa called an extremely conservative game on offense).

    I would love to see an Iowa/NE rivalry develop. If anything else just to shut thier fans up when we beat them senseless. But with that said it would be hard to get them out of the weak little 12 north.

  • Hawk123456

    I have always liked playing Minnesota at the end of the year. In that, as of late, we typically beat Minnesota, playing them helps the team work out any kinks and build confidence heading into bowl practice and the bowl game. I believe this is an important factor in our bowl game success.

    Furthermore, the last game of the season can be cold and snowy. I liked it that our last game was always at Kinnick or indoors in the dome. I am not looking forward to watching us play in Minnesota outdoors in late November.

    Anyway, I like that our last game is against Minnesota, however, I like it a lot less now that Minnesota has an outdoor stadium.

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