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03-15-2011, 05:41 AM
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Eli Carter or bust?
With Guerrero going to OK State, does that mean we're going to put all our resources into Carter? Personally, I've really liked Carter as more of a complete player than our other PG prospects even though Guerrero is a flashy scoring PG. Don't forget Carter is ranked by Rivals #22 PG and #109 overall. He's already taken 4 official visits, so he can only take one more. Scout shows no offer, but my guess is we have by now.
Scout also just released an article saying Olaseni and Katenda are setting up visits, but I have no insider info as to who or when.
Personally I think we should focus our efforts on Carter and Olaseni or possibly Katenda. I know we were looking at Stokes but have cooled and Washpun, but grades and overall talent could prevent an offer.
What do you think we are/should be doing?
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03-15-2011, 05:45 AM
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Re: Eli Carter or bust?
I forgot to mention Phillip Miller from Texas too, but we have to wait and see if he passes his tests, and I'm not sure if we would wait that long. Also there's Hubbard, but I'd really rather have a PG and big man for next year.
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03-15-2011, 05:57 AM
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Re: Eli Carter or bust?
"Get Carter"
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03-15-2011, 07:05 AM
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Graduate
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Re: Eli Carter or bust?
It'd be nice if he came but I am not getting my hopes up just to get cezared...
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03-15-2011, 07:18 AM
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Graduate
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Re: Eli Carter or bust?
I realize Carter can visit, but he hasn't visited Iowa City yet to my knowledge, so I don't know if that speaks real well in terms of his interest in Iowa. He has about a month to do so, so hopefully we get his last visit.
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03-15-2011, 07:19 AM
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Re: Eli Carter or bust?
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Originally Posted by spliff45
"Get Carter"
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Eli's Coming?
Don't forget Darius Smith.
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03-15-2011, 07:20 AM
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HN Doctorate
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Re: Eli Carter or bust?
Going to guess Bust
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03-15-2011, 07:31 AM
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Re: Eli Carter or bust?
At the risk of repeating myself, why do you guys keep getting so hyped for top recruits? They ain't coming to Iowa! We won 11 games and are sitting at home right now!
When Fran rebuilds this program, he is going to have to use under-the-radar kids with a big chip and a ton of heart, because top 150 kids are not going to want to play for a team in the midwest that has been mediocre since they were in third grade.
There is no quick fix here.
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03-15-2011, 07:35 AM
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Graduate
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Re: Eli Carter or bust?
What about Shaq Stokes? I'd be fine getting him as well.
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03-15-2011, 07:42 AM
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Re: Eli Carter or bust?
Now that Cezar is dead on the Ides of March, we need to convince Carter that we're his vehicle to greatness.
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03-15-2011, 07:52 AM
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Justin VanLaere
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Re: Eli Carter or bust?
The good news is there are a lot of quality PGs out there. Very rare for a spring period.
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03-15-2011, 08:01 AM
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Re: Eli Carter or bust?
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Originally Posted by Iowafarmgirl
At the risk of repeating myself, why do you guys keep getting so hyped for top recruits? They ain't coming to Iowa!
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BS.
If all of these recruits "ain't coming to Iowa", then why were we in Cezar's Top 2? He clearly was considering us. Depends on what you define as a top recruit. If you mean 5* recruits, then no - we are in no position to land those guys. But Cezar was considered a 3-4* type of player from all I've read.
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03-15-2011, 08:25 AM
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Re: Eli Carter or bust?
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Originally Posted by 1977Hawkeye
BS.
If all of these recruits "ain't coming to Iowa", then why were we in Cezar's Top 2? He clearly was considering us. Depends on what you define as a top recruit. If you mean 5* recruits, then no - we are in no position to land those guys. But Cezar was considered a 3-4* type of player from all I've read.
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He was a top 150 player who rejected us for a team in the NIT.
Keep in mind I say this in the context that Iowa fans have summarily rejected the talents of Kyle Meyer based on 20 seconds of film from when he was 15, saying that they don't think he can help us. Me thinks as long as we are winning 11 games, we should expect more under the radar guys like Meyer than top 150 guys like Guerrero.
Iowa fans, here at least, seem to think that there is a quick fix to five years in the cellar, and that it is a failure of we can't attract top talent! My point is we should stop obsessing over the Guerreros of the world, because they will almost always go to greener pastures.
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03-15-2011, 08:33 AM
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Re: Eli Carter or bust?
I also am just not all that concerned about PG. That is, unless Cully is just not going to be able to contribute and then Fran should realize that and cut his losses. If Cully is going to be able to contribute, he will be a nice utility guard off the bench.
Iowa really needs a perimeter scorer and a big. Each will reduce the ability of teams to double Mel. People talk about Cartwright graduating after next year. Yes, he will. But this team needs help NOW!
Get those players now and go after a starting PG for 2012.
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03-15-2011, 08:34 AM
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Re: Eli Carter or bust?
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Originally Posted by Iowafarmgirl
He was a top 150 player who rejected us for a team in the NIT.
Keep in mind I say this in the context that Iowa fans have summarily rejected the talents of Kyle Meyer based on 20 seconds of film from when he was 15, saying that they don't think he can help us. Me thinks as long as we are winning 11 games, we should expect more under the radar guys like Meyer than top 150 guys like Guerrero.
Iowa fans, here at least, seem to think that there is a quick fix to five years in the cellar, and that it is a failure of we can't attract top talent! My point is we should stop obsessing over the Guerreros of the world, because they will almost always go to greener pastures.
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Just a small edit: until we get ourselves off the ground with the underrated players, we probably aren't going to land many (if any) top 150 recruits that are from outside of Iowa. Oglesby is a top 150 guy, and the word has been that we have a pretty solid shot at Woodbury (by no means a lock, but it's no long shot either).
But we won't pull in out of state top 150 guys without first getting up off the canvas.
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