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11-20-2011, 03:23 PM
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Freshman
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: North Liberty
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Lay ups / FTs
Regardless of how well CU is shooting, have you ever sceen so many missed bunnies and FTs?
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11-20-2011, 04:31 PM
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Senior
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Cheyenne, WY or @TheWyomingHawk
Posts: 667
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Re: Lay ups / FTs
It was a pitiful show of basic basketball skills all the way around today. The team never did get on track. The one name that I have not heard much about when coach talks about improvements and impressing him in general is Basabe...I am now thinking there is a good reason for this fact...If I were the coach, I think I would be have Mr. Basabe taken out of the starting line up until his game picked up. That said, Mel was obviously not the reason we lost, this loss was a team loss.
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11-20-2011, 04:55 PM
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Freshman
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Centerville, Iowa
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Re: Lay ups / FTs
I've watched all for games in my opinion, Mel doesn't know what to do with himself. With being bigger (and maybe not as quick), it has hurt is penetration which I thought was a strength. He'll get better, playing with a new body/style will take sometime.
Creighton gave us a lot of things to get better at, and I think we will.
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11-20-2011, 05:02 PM
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Sophomore
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 124
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Re: Lay ups / FTs
There was a lot of choking today. While expected for the freshmen, they'll have to pick it up. They will, JO, came on big in the second half, albeit in semi mop up time. Gatens, probably won't miss another one like that this year.
Somebody has to step up be a leader and stop the bleeding that occurred today. I think Gatens initially did, but after that, no one was there to step up and make buckets.
That being said, I think the Hawks are getting better ball movement, spacing and open shots, and I think they'll shoot the ball better as the year goes along.
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11-20-2011, 05:06 PM
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Freshman
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Banned
Posts: 10,600
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Re: Lay ups / FTs
Mel is struggling because defenses are throwing a second defender at him the second he touches the ball. Defenses will continue doing this until he proves he can pass the basketball.
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11-20-2011, 05:08 PM
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Graduate
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,200
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Re: Lay ups / FTs
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Originally Posted by imported_jocohawk
There was a lot of choking today. While expected for the freshmen, they'll have to pick it up. They will, JO, came on big in the second half, albeit in semi mop up time. Gatens, probably won't miss another one like that this year.
Somebody has to step up be a leader and stop the bleeding that occurred today. I think Gatens initially did, but after that, no one was there to step up and make buckets.
That being said, I think the Hawks are getting better ball movement, spacing and open shots, and I think they'll shoot the ball better as the year goes along.
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One positive stat for the Hawks today: They had only 8 turnovers. Not bad for a young team playing against a strong defensive club.
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11-20-2011, 05:15 PM
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Sophomore
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 124
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Re: Lay ups / FTs
Definitely a positive. Haven't looked at the stats, but 8 to's is nice.
I'm not going to sugar coat it, it was a disgusting game to watch, but I still like what I see out of Ogelsby, White, McCabe.
Now they have to do something about the interior D. Hopefully the return of Brommer will shore that up at least a little.
Maybe I have blinders on, but I still see some improvements this year.
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11-20-2011, 05:16 PM
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HN Legend
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Re: Lay ups / FTs
Gatens has played well too.
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11-20-2011, 05:22 PM
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Senior
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Cheyenne, WY or @TheWyomingHawk
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Re: Lay ups / FTs
Seriously, eight TOs...WOW...there is something to build upon at least...now they need to work on laying the ball up and defending the post and ....
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11-20-2011, 06:16 PM
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HN Legend
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Des Moines
Posts: 3,811
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Re: Lay ups / FTs
Quote:
Originally Posted by imported_jocohawk
Definitely a positive. Haven't looked at the stats, but 8 to's is nice.
I'm not going to sugar coat it, it was a disgusting game to watch, but I still like what I see out of Ogelsby, White, McCabe.
Now they have to do something about the interior D. Hopefully the return of Brommer will shore that up at least a little.
Maybe I have blinders on, but I still see some improvements this year.
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This team will improve, what I took away from this game was Iowa isn't this bad and while they are good and will win the Valley Creighton isn't 23 points better then Iowa.
Also Ogelsby and McCabe will be fine, but White plays way out of control and needs to slow things down. Once he does that he will be just fine.
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11-20-2011, 06:24 PM
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Banned
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,054
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Re: Lay ups / FTs
i agree Ceighton is not as good as they played and Iowa is not as bad as they played;
i am not saying they would win the next game, but it would be a lot closer, at this point start McCabe and let Basabe come off the bench until he gets out of his dol drums, McCabe is playing with more energy and provides a outside scoring threat, both are the same height with McCabe being a tad heavier
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11-20-2011, 07:20 PM
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Sophomore
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 82
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Re: Lay ups / FTs
Most amazing stat of the game: Archie hit both his free throws!
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11-20-2011, 07:24 PM
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Graduate
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,275
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Re: Lay ups / FTs
I have never at any level seen so many missed uncontested layups. I don't even to know what to think or say about that. A 12 year old girl should make that shot and we repeatedly missed them.
I guess once we got behind they were so rattled that they were trying to hard and rendered themselves totally worthless.
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11-20-2011, 07:42 PM
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HN Legend
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Iowa
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Re: Lay ups / FTs
The only reason Creighton shot so well was because they were open on every look. Can't figure out why you'd stay in zone when they're shooting it well from the perimeter.
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11-20-2011, 09:02 PM
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Junior
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 208
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Re: Lay ups / FTs
It was god awful to watch at sometimes free throws just killed me how can you miss that many free ones!? everyone looked nervous out there i think this game was talked up a lot and our guys could not handle that pressure yet!
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