[greghammel]

Iowa Hawkeyes vs. North Carolina Tar Heels - Recap - November 24, 2004 - ESPN

Nov 24, 2004 in Hawaii vs. North Carolina... this was a fun Hawkeye team to watch.
Hawkeye basketball is getting much better fellas. They are just looking for that elusive corner to turn!

[glnhawk]

I remember a Davis team scoring over a hundred and losing to a team with no scholarship players.

[simpsonllp]

I remember us only scoring 89 tonight.

[bcl20]

Too bad you have to play defense and rebound also to win games. Lickliter's teams held other teams below 60. Not like it mattered or meant anything.

[ICHAWK]

Originally Posted by greghammel

Iowa Hawkeyes vs. North Carolina Tar Heels - Recap - November 24, 2004 - ESPN

Nov 24, 2004 in Hawaii vs. North Carolina... this was a fun Hawkeye team to watch.
Hawkeye basketball is getting much better fellas. They are just looking for that elusive corner to turn!

That Carolina team had 5 NBA players and at least two are still active in the NBA.

[simpsonllp]

Originally Posted by bcl20

Too bad you have to play defense and rebound also to win games. Lickliter's teams held other teams below 50. Not like it mattered or meant anything.

I'd rather score 89 and lose by 15 than score 45 points and lose by 10.

[bcl20]

Originally Posted by simpsonllp

I'd rather score 89 and lose by 15 than score 45 points and lose by 10.

So, neither are indicative of becoming a good team which was more or less my point.

[okeefe4prez]

Originally Posted by ICHAWK

That Carolina team had 5 NBA players and at least two are still active in the NBA.

Didn't we play every Final Four team that year pretty close other than that sick UNC team? I thought we beat Louisville and Michigan State and we should have beaten Illinois but we got Bained. Then the Administration got a little overprotective and we lost a guy and we had a few bad calls in the tournament game and we got jobbed, otherwise we prolly would have had at least an Elite Eight team.

[simpsonllp]

Originally Posted by bcl20

So, neither are indicative of becoming a good team which was more or less my point.

There's two ways a lot of NCAA tournament teams win games. You have the Kansas State/West Virginia style which is athletes, reckless, pressure defense, poor free throw shooting, dribble penetration, block shots, tattoos, above the rim, lackadaisical at times, undisciplined at times, frustrating at times.

Then you have the Wisconsin's if you will. The slow it down, cerebral teams, who rebound, play solid defense, shoot well, shoot free throws well, always hustle, have long scoring droughts, lack athleticism, struggle under intense perimeter defensive pressure, boring at times.

Both styles work. I'd rather watch the Kansas State/West Virginia style though.

[bcl20]

Originally Posted by okeefe4prez

Didn't we play every Final Four team that year pretty close other than that sick UNC team? I thought we beat Louisville and Michigan State and we should have beaten Illinois but we got Bained. Then the Administration got a little overprotective and we lost a guy and we had a few bad calls in the tournament game and we got jobbed, otherwise we prolly would have had at least an Elite Eight team.

I feel like the 2004-2005 Iowa basketball team is the least remember NCAA tournament team Iowa has had. I barely even remembered who they played in the tournament that year and there aren't really too many memories from that season aside from probably the Big 10 tournament game against Michigan State.

The OT loss to Illinois as well was another memorable one.

[tm3308]

Originally Posted by bcl20

I feel like the 2004-2005 Iowa basketball team is the least remember NCAA tournament team Iowa has had. I barely even remembered who they played in the tournament that year and there aren't really too many memories from that season aside from probably the Big 10 tournament game against Michigan State.

The OT loss to Illinois as well was another memorable one.

Cincinnati and Jason Maxiell.

[bcl20]

Originally Posted by tm3308

Cincinnati and Jason Maxiell.

I had no idea he was on that Bear Cat team. I thought he was like 40 years old for some reason.

[okeefe4prez]

Originally Posted by bcl20

I feel like the 2004-2005 Iowa basketball team is the least remember NCAA tournament team Iowa has had. I barely even remembered who they played in the tournament that year and there aren't really too many memories from that season aside from probably the Big 10 tournament game against Michigan State.

The OT loss to Illinois as well was another memorable one.

Well, I remember seeing Pierce in his last game versus Indiana. I believe Alford had benched all the starters to open that game bince he was upset with them (take a note Fran) for losing in Evanston.

I hate to say it, but if Pierce doesn't get bounced off that squad, I think we would have done some damage with him in the tournament. We just kind of imploded when we went from Pierce to Reed and Henderson getting huge minutes. Alford pulled them together and put together a nice late season run to make it into the Tourney, but our fate was sealed when we lost Pierce. People forget how good that team looked early. Hell, they beat UNI, ISU and Drake - how great would that feel again?

[bcl20]

Originally Posted by okeefe4prez

Well, I remember seeing Pierce in his last game versus Indiana. I believe Alford had benched all the starters to open that game bince he was upset with them (take a note Fran) for losing in Evanston.

I hate to say it, but if Pierce doesn't get bounced off that squad, I think we would have done some damage with him in the tournament. We just kind of imploded when we went from Pierce to Reed and Henderson getting huge minutes. Alford pulled them together and put together a nice late season run to make it into the Tourney, but our fate was sealed when we lost Pierce. People forget how good that team looked early. Hell, they beat UNI, ISU and Drake - how great would that feel again?

I was at that ISU game. It was my first Iowa basketball game live, I forgot about that. I guess I forget that season mostly because I was working full time and going to school full time at that time (haha, I said "time" a lot) so I didn't get to watch too many games.

[ICHAWK]

Originally Posted by okeefe4prez

Well, I remember seeing Pierce in his last game versus Indiana. I believe Alford had benched all the starters to open that game bince he was upset with them (take a note Fran) for losing in Evanston.

I hate to say it, but if Pierce doesn't get bounced off that squad, I think we would have done some damage with him in the tournament. We just kind of imploded when we went from Pierce to Reed and Henderson getting huge minutes. Alford pulled them together and put together a nice late season run to make it into the Tourney, but our fate was sealed when we lost Pierce. People forget how good that team looked early. Hell, they beat UNI, ISU and Drake - how great would that feel again?

Pierce had all the tools... Too bad he did not understand "no" means "no" when dealing with women and too bad he did not play for a coach who could have helped him develope more.

If he played 4 years at Iowa he had a legit shot to play in the NBA. He had that type of physical talent.