[oroko]

Originally Posted by herbyhawk

White was injured the summer between his JR and SR year so he did not go thru the summer AAU evaluation,and get a higher rating, and somehow i don't think a kid that gets awarded the MVP of the Ohio/Kentucky All Star Game is a diamond in the rough,
Meyer was looking for a Clemson offer, but they wanted to see him play during the summer AAU and make their decision, they didn't offer Fran did and he chose Iowa in spring before the summer evaluations.
lets face it the Atlantic Celtics are one of the top AAU teams in the country year in and year out, which is why nobody paid attention to him, he is now just a 2* on espn, as are Clemmons and Ingram, with Clemmons he is rated the #1 pg and 3rd best player in Michigan, by the Michigan people. But he cant beat out Ray Lee on ESPN.
but during the summer both of these played in the shadow of some of the higher regarded players,
Woodbury has now been dropped out of the top 50 and from the 7th best center to 11th best, this is why i have always felt the rankings are a farce,
lets face it all 5 of Iowa recruits were dropped, we now have 2 4* and 3 2* recruits, but they are alot better than their rankings as seen on their videos

Herby has assessed all recruits to be undervalued so there's that.

[herbyhawk]

why critizes a statement of fact, Woodbury was Top 50 at 42 and 7th best at his position awarded the MVP of the NBA Top 100 camp, now that he has signed with Iowa he drops out of the Top 50 and now is rated the 11th best center, Gesell is a 2 time Gatorade player of the year in Nebraska and is in line for getting that award for the 3rd time as well as Mr.BB in Nebraska, and dropped from 72nd best overall to 84th and from the 10th best pg to the 15th best, after signing with Iowa.
hard to argue with that

[MisterLucky]

Originally Posted by herbyhawk

why critizes a statement of fact, Woodbury was Top 50 at 42 and 7th best at his position awarded the MVP of the NBA Top 100 camp, now that he has signed with Iowa he drops out of the Top 50 and now is rated the 11th best center, Gesell is a 2 time Gatorade player of the year in Nebraska and is in line for getting that award for the 3rd time as well as Mr.BB in Nebraska, and dropped from 72nd best overall to 84th and from the 10th best pg to the 15th best, after signing with Iowa.
hard to argue with that

Is any of this going to affect their ability to play basketball and help our team? Then why worry about it? And I don't want to hear about how it may affect our future recruits, because it won't affect their skills either. Just give it a rest, herby. You have made your feelings regarding the ESPN ratings abundantly clear.

[Cydkar]

Statement of fact? Ratings aren't factual to begin with let alone the argument you make against them.

[herbyhawk]

my arguement lies in how good this class is in how the talking heads percieve this class is, and that is by rankings, the more they promote Iowa, the better it is for Iowa, especially TV coverage.
Indiana got their matchup with Kentucky and their top 25 ranking because of the incoming Class rankings.
in the end i guess it doesn't matter tha Iowa doesn't get that respect so many of you complain that Iowa doesn't get, nor does it appear that you want that type of respect to get National TV coverage the rankings bring.
do i realize the * doesn't help a kid in his playing ability; yes i get that, but unlike you i want the national respect that a higher ranked class gets

[imported_Tmoney12]

Wow, will get plenty of respect when they develop and we improve next year.

[ICHAWK]

Originally Posted by herbyhawk

why critizes a statement of fact, Woodbury was Top 50 at 42 and 7th best at his position awarded the MVP of the NBA Top 100 camp, now that he has signed with Iowa he drops out of the Top 50 and now is rated the 11th best center, Gesell is a 2 time Gatorade player of the year in Nebraska and is in line for getting that award for the 3rd time as well as Mr.BB in Nebraska, and dropped from 72nd best overall to 84th and from the 10th best pg to the 15th best, after signing with Iowa.
hard to argue with that

Give it a rest with ESPN you went off about this a bit ago and I told you to reference rivals from now on. Is there a reason you can't go to rivals? You are about the only person who brings up ESPN ratings, everyone else looks at rivals.

Woodbury on rivals is ranked the 42nd best player in his class and the 7th best center in the class.

Would you just give it a rest Herby.

[ICHAWK]

Originally Posted by herbyhawk

my arguement lies in how good this class is in how the talking heads percieve this class is, and that is by rankings, the more they promote Iowa, the better it is for Iowa, especially TV coverage.
Indiana got their matchup with Kentucky and their top 25 ranking because of the incoming Class rankings.
in the end i guess it doesn't matter tha Iowa doesn't get that respect so many of you complain that Iowa doesn't get, nor does it appear that you want that type of respect to get National TV coverage the rankings bring.
do i realize the * doesn't help a kid in his playing ability; yes i get that, but unlike you i want the national respect that a higher ranked class gets

Herby you are just ridiculos!

According to Scout October 5th 2011 they had Iowa's class ranked at #16 and I have seen various services that have Iowa anywhere between 16-30 which is a solid class considering everything. What the heck else do you want? It's like you are just feel like making completely stupid arguments. What you have been saying is utterly stupid.

Iowa is getting plenty of respect. Announcers mention Woodbury all the time and at times even mention Gesell. I don't know what the heck else you want.

You are making completely baseless arguments about Iowa being slighted somehow.

Rivals Rankings:
Woodbury 42nd best player in his class and the 7th best center
Gesell 96th best player in his class and the 21st rated point guard
Ingram 3 star. Has probably not played enough big time AAU tournaments to be ranked
Clemmons 3 star. Has probably not played enough big time AAU tournaments to be ranked.

Both Ingram and Clemmons seem to be performing well in large school basketball in largely populated states so they must be decent.

Git it a rest Herby.

[PatrickAdamovicz]

ESPN has Wood bury ranked 51st overall. Big deal if he's outside of the top 50, its one flipping spot.

[MisterLucky]

They mention at least one time every time we have a televised game that we have a great recruiting class coming in next year.