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02-26-2012, 10:23 PM #1Sophomore
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Bracetology 2012
Back when I was still doing sports talk radio, I used to make light of ESPN’s “bracketologist” Joe Lunardi for bragging about predicting 99% of the teams to make the NCAA Tournament every year. After all, how hard can it be given the amount of brackets he puts out during the season right up until the actual bracket is released?
To prove my point, two years ago I started predicting the NCAA Tournament bracket two weeks before all the conference tournaments were completed and the Selection Committee unveiled the actual bracket. In 2010, I got 86% of the teams that eventually made the field correct. Last year that number dropped to 79%.
This year I’m back again to demonstrate that Lunardi is dramatically
overpaid.
In picking my field I am going through the same selection process the Selection Committee undergoes each year. I weigh the same factors, but put the most weight on non-conference strength of schedule. The reason why is since the RPI was introduced to the selection process in early 1990s there have been two constants.
First, every Selection Committee has chosen whether or not to weigh factors such as record in your last 10 games, conference strength, or head-to-head competition differently. But every committee has put a premium on non-conference strength of schedule for the teams from the power conferences. The greatest example of this was Georgia in 2001, which earned an at-large berth despite owning just a 16-13 record because the Bulldogs faced the toughest schedule in the nation.
Second, while it is true the RPI is not the end-all-be-all for the Selection Committee, the criteria that makes up the formula makes the RPI a sort of framework for the process as a whole. So while the at-large teams and the seeding aren’t a perfect match with the RPI, you rarely find at-large teams with a RPI of higher than 70 making the field. It’s only occurred a handful of times in 20 years, and one of them was New Mexico when its athletics director was on the Selection Committee.
There are 31 automatic bids to the 2012 NCAA Tournament, and 37 at-large bids. Automatic bids are awarded to the winner of each conference tournament, except for the Ivy League which doesn’t have one. Instead, its regular season champion is awarded its automatic bid.
I project the 31 automatic bids to go to the following teams:
- AMERICA EAST—Vermont
- *ATLANTIC 10—Xavier
- ACC—North Carolina
- ATLANTIC SUN—Belmont
- BIG 12—Missouri
- BIG EAST—Syracuse
- BIG SKY—Weber State
- BIG SOUTH—UNC-Asheville
- BIG TEN—Ohio State
- BIG WEST—Long Beach State
- *COLONIAL ATHLETIC—VCU
- CONFERENCE USA—Memphis
- HORIZON—Valparaiso
- IVY—Harvard
- METRO ATLANTIC—Iona
- MAC—Akron
- MEAC—Savannah State
- MISSOURI VALLEY—Wichita State
- MOUNTAIN WEST—UNLV
- NORTHEAST—Wagner
- OHIO VALLEY—Murray State
- *PAC-12—Arizona
- PATRIOT—Bucknell
- SEC—Kentucky
- SOUTHERN—Davidson
- SOUTHLAND—Texas-Arlington
- SWAC—Mississippi Valley State
- SUMMIT—Oral Roberts
- SUN BELT—Middle Tennessee
- WEST COAST—Gonzaga
- WAC—Nevada
Each year there are at least two or three “bracket busters” during the conference tournaments. A “bracket buster” is when a team wins a conference tournament that wasn’t already considered an at-large team regardless, thus potentially taking away spots on the so-called bubble.
In my predictions, you’ll note there are three such “bracket busters” in the Atlantic 10, Colonial Athletic, and Pac-12. I chose those three leagues specifically because I anticipate they have the highest likelihood of producing a “bracket buster.”
Now to the at-large selection process.
Based on my conference tournament projections, I predict the following at-large bids to be safe regardless of how each of these teams finishes the final two weeks.
ACC (2): Duke, Florida State
Big East (4): Marquette, Georgetown, Louisville, Notre Dame
Big Ten (4): Michigan State, Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana
Big 12 (3): Kansas, Baylor, Iowa State
SEC (2): Florida, Vanderbilt
Missouri Valley (1): Creighton
Mountain West (2): San Diego State, New Mexico
Atlantic 10 (2): Temple, St. Louis
Conference USA (1): Southern Mississippi
According to my projections 21 of the 37 at-large spots in the field are spoken for. That’s actually the fewest this late in the season I can recall, which means there is still plenty of time for teams like Virginia and Connecticut to play their way out of the field, and time for teams like BYU and Northwestern to play their way in.
I project the final 16 at-large spots to be awarded as follows.
ACC (2): Virginia, Miami (Fla.)
Big East (3): Connecticut, Seton Hall, West Virginia
Big Ten (2): Purdue, Northwestern
Big 12 (2): Kansas State, Texas
Conference USA (1): Marshall
Pac-12 (2): California, Washington
SEC (2): Alabama, Mississippi State
Mountain West (1): Colorado State
Colonial Athletic (1): Drexel
Last four in—Miami (Fla.), West Virginia, Northwestern, Drexel
Last four out—South Florida, BYU, Dayton, N.C. State
Northwestern, which has never made the NCAA Tournament before, was the second to last team in my projected field. South Florida, which could finish as high as third in the Big East, was the first team out. The difference is strength of schedule. The Wildcats have played a top-10 strength of schedule, courtesy of playing in the toughest conference in the country and also faced four RPI top 100 non-conference foes.
In recent years the Selection Committee has shown mercy to respected mid-majors with gaudy records that don’t win their conference tournaments, hence Drexel being the last team in.
However, once I got down to the final five slots in the field there weren’t any teams objectively deserving of an at-large bid. There were just teams subjectively less undeserving than the others. At that point beauty is totally in the eye of the beholder.
The biggest surprise in my selection process was Marshall, which has a top-25 RPI thanks mainly to a top 20 non-conference strength of schedule that included wins over two teams that made my field of 68 – Iona and Belmont – as well as a win at Cincinnati.
With our 68 teams selected, next comes the seeding process.
EAST (Boston)
@Pittsburgh
1. Syracuse vs. 16. Wagner/UNC-Asheville*
8. Xavier vs. 9. Virginia
@Greensboro
2. Duke vs. 15. Vermont
7. Iowa State vs. 10. Seton Hall
@Columbus
3. Michigan vs. 14. Belmont
6. Vanderbilt vs. 11. Creighton
@Albuquerque
4. Baylor vs. 13. Iona
5. Temple vs. 12. Marshall
WEST (Phoenix)
@Greensboro
1. North Carolina vs. 16. Texas-Arlington
8. New Mexico vs. 9. Arizona
@Louisville
2. Ohio State vs. 15. Weber State
7. Kansas State vs. 10. Mississippi State
@Albuquerque
3. UNLV vs. 14. Oral Roberts
6. Florida State vs. 11. Washington
@Portland
4. Louisville vs. 13. Nevada
5. Gonzaga vs. 12. Texas
SOUTH (Atlanta)
@Louisville
1. Kentucky vs. 16. Savannah State/Mississippi Valley State*
8. Memphis vs. 9. Purdue
@Omaha
2. Missouri vs. 15. Bucknell
7. St. Louis vs. 10. California
@Nashville
3. Marquette vs. Davidson
6. Wisconsin vs. Colorado State
@Nashville
4. Murray State vs. 13. Northwestern/Miami (Fla.)*
5. Notre Dame vs. 12. VCU
MIDWEST (St. Louis)
@Columbus
1. Michigan State vs. 16. Middle Tennessee
8. Southern Mississippi vs. 9. Connecticut
@Omaha
2. Kansas vs. 16. Valparaiso
7. San Diego State vs. 10. Alabama
@Pittsburgh
3. Georgetown vs. 14. Akron
6. Indiana vs. 11. Long Beach State
@Portland
4. Wichita State vs. West Virginia/Drexel*
5. Florida vs. 12. Harvard
*: the last four at-large teams in the field, and the last four automatic teams, play in the NCAA first round game prior to the Field of 64
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02-26-2012, 10:40 PM #2
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How do you know what Lunardi is paid?
Someday, I don't know when
we're gonna get to that place, where we want to go,
And we'll walk in the sun.
But till then Tramps Like Us
Baby we were Born to Run!
You can't imply anything to morons - Ahmet Ertegun.
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02-26-2012, 10:55 PM #3
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Looks like you spent a lot of time just to be as wrong as everyone else.
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02-26-2012, 11:37 PM #4
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I used to do this on my blog. I did it for four or five years. My first two years I only missed a couple teams. It really isnt that difficult. I was at 98 percent, I believe. Havent looked back in many years.
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02-26-2012, 11:49 PM #5
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Ok, I had to look back...
2005 - 65 out of 65 teams
STORMINSPANK'S HAWKEYE RAMBLINGS: 2005 NCAA Basketball Tournament - Bubble Analysis
2006 - 63 out of 65 teams
STORMINSPANK'S HAWKEYE RAMBLINGS: My Look at the Bubble Teams for '06
2007 - 63 out of 65 teams
STORMINSPANK'S HAWKEYE RAMBLINGS: Final Look at My Bubble Teams - NCAA Tourney Field Predictions for 2007
2008 - 64 out of 65 teams
STORMINSPANK'S HAWKEYE RAMBLINGS: MEN'S BB: A Look at the 2008 NCAA Tournament and My Bubble Team Analysis (Final Prediction)
Here were my 4 year totals: 255/260 (.981)
2009 - I didnt list the results for whatever reason.
STORMINSPANK'S HAWKEYE RAMBLINGS: MEN'S BB: 2009 NCAA Tournament & My Bubble Team Analysis (FINAL UPDATE)
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02-27-2012, 12:24 AM #6Banned
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Spank is underpaid.
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02-27-2012, 12:41 AM #7
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Will considering before the bracket you know who all the automatic byes are and you know who 90 percent of who the locks are. If you really break it down there's probably like 8 teams on the bubble for 4 spots and if you get 4 right I guess you could claim 64/68 which is 94 percent. Seems pretty easy to me. Even Deace predicting two weeks before 86 and 79 percent is pretty bad, considering Deace is probably projecting and Lanardi is not.
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02-27-2012, 05:21 AM #8Freshman
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Re: Bracetology 2012
How do you have Mich St as the Midwest No. 1 over KU?
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02-27-2012, 06:17 AM #9
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Is anyone going to point out that 86% and 79% correct is horrible? My wife got 84% correct last year
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02-27-2012, 06:23 AM #10
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"If we make a bowl game I will personally take Minnesota Hawkeye Freak out for a nice steak dinner, and then never call her again." Stanzi 4-8-2013
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02-27-2012, 06:40 AM #11Sophomore
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Lunardi is extremely overrated. His job really isn't that hard. They will say he got 62/64 teams right. But really 31 of those are at-large teams that you can't get wrong. At least 28 of the remaining spots are no brainers. So he got 4/6 correct, big whoop.
Heres a good link if you want to follow better bracketologists.
The Bracket Project - Ranking the Bracketologists
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02-27-2012, 07:28 AM #12
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02-27-2012, 07:33 AM #13
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Lunardi keeps track of the bracket throughout the season. It's pretty much another ranking system that is updated regularly, like Kenpom, realtime RPI or even the AP or the coaches poll. It's a fun way to see where your team is compare to others throughout the course of the season.
Fact is, he is one of the "few" people who follow the game, and every team very closely and he is kind of good at it. It interests people and gathers hits to the website therefor he gets paid to do it.
Acting, and caring, like it's anything other than that is a waste of time.
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02-27-2012, 07:36 AM #14
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ESPN's talking heads spittle all over themselves saying what a genius he is, etc, etc...and its a joke. I almost think ESPN went out and created the computer program to emulate the RPI, then went out and hired the nerdiest person they could find to cast as their geek bracketologist.
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02-27-2012, 07:38 AM #15


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