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Old 12-16-2011, 08:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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DeCourcy: Penn State football program was as much about secrecy as it was tradition, integrity - NCAA Football - Sporting News

This talks about how the PSU football program went from being accessible to the opposite, and how that 'possibly' fostered an environment where what took place and PSU was possible...not that Sandusky's behavior was encouraged, but how the outside not knowing anything about it led to things being perhaps covered up.

Marc Morehouse of The Gazette retweeted the item, and added 'This is Iowa'.
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Everything I have heard about KF is that he is a great human being, I've always hoped that were true. Therefore, unde that premise, I would assume that although Iowa has become closed off, KF would never allow a scandal of this magnitude happen without him doing what needed to be done.
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Everything I have heard about KF is that he is a great human being, I've always hoped that were true. Therefore, unde that premise, I would assume that although Iowa has become closed off, KF would never allow a scandal of this magnitude happen without him doing what needed to be done.
This is what people would have said about Paterno up to a month or two ago.
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This is what people would have said about Paterno up to a month or two ago.
Scary, but true
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Everything I have heard about KF is that he is a great human being, I've always hoped that were true. Therefore, unde that premise, I would assume that although Iowa has become closed off, KF would never allow a scandal of this magnitude happen without him doing what needed to be done.
I would have said the same thing of Joe Paterno a year ago.
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Old 12-16-2011, 09:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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DeCourcy: Penn State football program was as much about secrecy as it was tradition, integrity - NCAA Football - Sporting News

This talks about how the PSU football program went from being accessible to the opposite, and how that 'possibly' fostered an environment where what took place and PSU was possible...not that Sandusky's behavior was encouraged, but how the outside not knowing anything about it led to things being perhaps covered up.

Marc Morehouse of The Gazette retweeted the item, and added 'This is Iowa'.
I know what he's trying to say, but it's a really bad idea to link Iowa to PSU covering up for a child rapist.

That's why twitter can be dangerous for journalists. In a full article he can explore the similarities between how the two schools treat the media and carefully insinuate that it's important for the media to be involved.
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Old 12-16-2011, 09:33 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I guess I'm confused as to what Marc is implying.

The limit of Q&A at press conferences(I hope).

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The status of another suspended Iowa player and possible ramifications.

Jon, please delete this post if I am way off base.
What? I have no idea where you got that second possibility.

It was pretty clear that Marc was referring to the general attitude towards the media that the football program has. There isn't much access given into what happens inside "Fort Kinnick" as I've heard Jon refer to the Iowa football program.
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I dont think Morehouse is saying anything about there being scandalous behavior in the Iowa football program...not at all.

I believe he is referring to the press conference practices and set ups at Iowa, which are very much what like this article suggests are the practices at Penn State.

This is where my 'Ft Kinnick' references have come from through the years.
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I dont think Morehouse is saying anything about there being scandalous behavior in the Iowa football program...not at all.

I believe he is referring to the press conference practices and set ups at Iowa, which are very much what like this article suggests are the practices at Penn State.

This is where my 'Ft Kinnick' references have come from through the years.
I agree with everything you just posted and I think Marc is right for the most part that it's important that the media does their job as watchdogs and not get complacent.

That said, as you've stated many times on here and on your radio show, that PSU mess is radioactive. You can't just throw out a "this is Iowa" after a PSU coverup article without (almost certainly unintentionally) implying that Iowa is involved in similar activities.
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There are no secrets in Iowa City. There are a bunch of noisy J's looking to make a story.
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Old 12-17-2011, 06:36 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Iowa City is a very small town. If a player does something stupid, we all eventually find out about it.
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If this is any indication of Morehouse's judgement and maturity, I hope Fort Kinnick keeps him outside the walls. He ought to be ashamed of himself.
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If this is any indication of Morehouse's judgement and maturity, I hope Fort Kinnick keeps him outside the walls. He ought to be ashamed of himself.
I agree. And it's not like journalism hasn't changed in the last few years. Do Gregggg Doyle's tweets ring a bell?
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If this is any indication of Morehouse's judgement and maturity, I hope Fort Kinnick keeps him outside the walls. He ought to be ashamed of himself.
I agree. Comparing the university of Iowa football program to Penn St would harbored a known pedophile is stupid and irresponsible.
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Penn State is now interviewing an assistant coach from Baylor that was at PSU when McQuery caught Sandusky.

Baylor Bears Brian Norwood candidate to coach Penn State Nittany Lions, Hawaii Warriors - ESPN Dallas
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