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Old 02-04-2012, 11:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Will the Offense Change?

I don't really think we'll see any drastic changes in our offense. Maybe a wrinkle or two and a different play call here and there, but I don't see KF getting too far away from his comfort zone.
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Re: Will the Offense Change?

With Ken.


Without....

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Old 02-04-2012, 12:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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With Ken.


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I agree. Same base scheme with a few new sprinkles.
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Old 02-04-2012, 12:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I agree. Same base scheme with a few new sprinkles.
To hell with sprinkles.

Even if we go from vanilla just to New York vanilla I'd be moderately happy.
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Re:Will the Offense Change?

Philosophically, no. Maybe a few little things change, an the system may be run more effectively.
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Old 02-04-2012, 03:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Will the Offense Change?

NEIN!!!!

But maybe someone can be a more effective playcaller within that offense.
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Old 02-04-2012, 03:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
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To hell with sprinkles.

Even if we go from vanilla just to New York vanilla I'd be moderately happy.
I'd be happy with New York. Hell of a lot better than French....
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Old 02-04-2012, 10:58 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Depends upon how much influence Ferentz had in play calling.
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Philosophically, no. Maybe a few little things change, an the system may be run more effectively.
This is what I'm expecting, which is more than good enough for me.
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Re:Will the Offense Change?

Can't be worse in some areas for sure
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Old 02-05-2012, 06:47 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Will run under the same offensive parameters established by Kirk...

But my hope is....
1. A few new wrinkles
2. Better in-game decision making -> stick with what is working, scrap what is not (forcing an opponent to stop you - instead of trying to do a mix of everything)
3. Better late game clock management
4. A two minute offense
5. No more goofy personnel groupings in late game situations (walk-on RB, double tight-ends in two minute offense, etc.)
6. QB in the shotgun in obvious passing situations (QB under center with no RB's ?)
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Will run under the same offensive parameters established by Kirk...

But my hope is....
1. A few new wrinkles
2. Better in-game decision making -> stick with what is working, scrap what is not (forcing an opponent to stop you - instead of trying to do a mix of everything)
3. Better late game clock management
4. A two minute offense

5. No more goofy personnel groupings in late game situations (walk-on RB, double tight-ends in two minute offense, etc.)
6. QB in the shotgun in obvious passing situations (QB under center with no RB's ?)
Is it sad that we have to hope for these things to be standards?
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Old 02-05-2012, 07:12 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Will the Offense Change?

i have come up with 2 things i really want to see from the new oc. these are the 2 things i believe held us back the most. kok in my opinion was a good teacher, developer of talent, and gameplanner. but he was very pedestrian in is gameday play calling and personnel groupings. i believe better gameday playcalling (basically more consistent) and more personnel groups. the personnel groupings is my main one as i think the offense is fine. things like a speed personnel group that has your 4 fastest wrs in it even if that means you take out your top wr. or a personnel group where cjf is split out like a wr. since our formations and motions dont give a lot of match up problems lets use our personnel in different ways. we have a gronkowski type te. use him like such.
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Old 02-05-2012, 07:21 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Kok got a lot of heat....I'm just worried that our offenses conservative approach is more KF than Kok
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Kok got a lot of heat....I'm just worried that our offenses conservative approach is more KF than Kok
It absolutely is KF
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