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02-04-2012, 11:42 AM
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Will the Offense Change?
I don't really think we'll see any drastic changes in our offense. Maybe a wrinkle or two and a different play call here and there, but I don't see KF getting too far away from his comfort zone.
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02-04-2012, 12:04 PM
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Re: Will the Offense Change?
With Ken.
Without....
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02-04-2012, 12:06 PM
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Re: Will the Offense Change?
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With Ken.
Without....

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I agree. Same base scheme with a few new sprinkles.
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02-04-2012, 12:25 PM
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Re: Will the Offense Change?
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I agree. Same base scheme with a few new sprinkles.
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To hell with sprinkles.
Even if we go from vanilla just to New York vanilla I'd be moderately happy.
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02-04-2012, 12:34 PM
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Re:Will the Offense Change?
Philosophically, no. Maybe a few little things change, an the system may be run more effectively.
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02-04-2012, 03:06 PM
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Re: Will the Offense Change?
NEIN!!!!
But maybe someone can be a more effective playcaller within that offense.
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02-04-2012, 03:09 PM
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Re: Will the Offense Change?
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To hell with sprinkles.
Even if we go from vanilla just to New York vanilla I'd be moderately happy.
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I'd be happy with New York. Hell of a lot better than French....
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02-04-2012, 10:58 PM
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Re: Will the Offense Change?
Depends upon how much influence Ferentz had in play calling.
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02-04-2012, 11:13 PM
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Re: Will the Offense Change?
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Originally Posted by HawkeyeMcNutt
Philosophically, no. Maybe a few little things change, an the system may be run more effectively.
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This is what I'm expecting, which is more than good enough for me.
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02-04-2012, 11:22 PM
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Re:Will the Offense Change?
Can't be worse in some areas for sure
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02-05-2012, 06:47 AM
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Re: Will the Offense Change?
Will run under the same offensive parameters established by Kirk...
But my hope is....
1. A few new wrinkles
2. Better in-game decision making -> stick with what is working, scrap what is not (forcing an opponent to stop you - instead of trying to do a mix of everything)
3. Better late game clock management
4. A two minute offense
5. No more goofy personnel groupings in late game situations (walk-on RB, double tight-ends in two minute offense, etc.)
6. QB in the shotgun in obvious passing situations (QB under center with no RB's ?)
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02-05-2012, 06:57 AM
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Re: Will the Offense Change?
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Originally Posted by SpecialKHawk
Will run under the same offensive parameters established by Kirk...
But my hope is....
1. A few new wrinkles
2. Better in-game decision making -> stick with what is working, scrap what is not (forcing an opponent to stop you - instead of trying to do a mix of everything)
3. Better late game clock management
4. A two minute offense
5. No more goofy personnel groupings in late game situations (walk-on RB, double tight-ends in two minute offense, etc.)
6. QB in the shotgun in obvious passing situations (QB under center with no RB's ?)
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Is it sad that we have to hope for these things to be standards?
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02-05-2012, 07:12 AM
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Re: Will the Offense Change?
i have come up with 2 things i really want to see from the new oc. these are the 2 things i believe held us back the most. kok in my opinion was a good teacher, developer of talent, and gameplanner. but he was very pedestrian in is gameday play calling and personnel groupings. i believe better gameday playcalling (basically more consistent) and more personnel groups. the personnel groupings is my main one as i think the offense is fine. things like a speed personnel group that has your 4 fastest wrs in it even if that means you take out your top wr. or a personnel group where cjf is split out like a wr. since our formations and motions dont give a lot of match up problems lets use our personnel in different ways. we have a gronkowski type te. use him like such.
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02-05-2012, 07:21 AM
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Re:Will the Offense Change?
Kok got a lot of heat....I'm just worried that our offenses conservative approach is more KF than Kok
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02-05-2012, 08:32 AM
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Re: Will the Offense Change?
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Originally Posted by HawkeyeGold
Kok got a lot of heat....I'm just worried that our offenses conservative approach is more KF than Kok
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It absolutely is KF
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