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09-22-2011, 06:09 AM
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Will the BCS Last Beyond 2014?
The BCS Agreement/Contract expires in 2014. The landscape of college football has changed since its initial inception. Conference membership has changed and is in the midst of changing. When it comes time to renew the contract it is likely that the ground rules for a conference getting AQ spots will change, i.e. the Big East may not qualify.
The there is another possibility the BCS isn't renewed. There could be an alignment of four conferences to crown a champ. You could have the PAC and B1G champs meet in the Rose and the SEC and ACC champs meet in the Orange and the winners play for the title of Big 4 champion.
In my estimation there are only three teams absent under the aforementioned arrangement; Notre Dame, Oklahoma and Texas, to making that the national championship game.
All this jockeying around because of BCS AQ status might be a moot point in 2014.
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09-22-2011, 06:25 AM
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Re: Will the BCS Last Beyond 2014?
I don't mind your scenario, but, like you say, what happens with those schools (plus all the others)? It can't be that simple.
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09-22-2011, 06:29 AM
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Re: Will the BCS Last Beyond 2014?
I really want to see a BCS playoff system where 2 of the BCS Bowls send the winners to a NC game. Just 1 extra game is all I am asking for.
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09-22-2011, 06:33 AM
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Re: Will the BCS Last Beyond 2014?
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I really want to see a BCS playoff system where 2 of the BCS Bowls send the winners to a NC game. Just 1 extra game is all I am asking for.
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Yep, a plus 1 would be great.
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09-22-2011, 07:04 AM
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Re: Will the BCS Last Beyond 2014?
I find all of this reorganization and cryptic responses fascinating.
Oklahoma/okie state were certain all they had to do was apply to the Pac-12 and they would be instantly invited. Oooops, the Pac-12 doesn't want them, UNLESS Texas goes along for the ride. But Texas wants to keep its LHN if they go to another conference. The problem is that the rest of the conferences have seen what giving special favors to one or more teams does to a conference, thus, if Texas wants to join a conference they have to become "just another member" and Texas can't do that.
The really funny part is that the rest of the teams in the Pac-12 have NO power to do anything about what Texas and Oklahoma want to do, they signed those rights away when the schools voted for uneven income. Then there are the perennial bottom feeders of the Pac-12 who have NO say and who HAVE to do whatever Texas and Oklahoma want them to do. They know if the conference breaks up the future is not very bright.
Then there is the Big East, who continues to lose its better teams to the ACC. The replacements are slim to none. Even if the Big 12 implodes, the teams leftover are certainly not marquee names by any means. If the Big 12 leftovers joined the Big East leftovers, the new conference should be named, "The leftover conference," composed of teams no other conference wants.
Now all the teams in both conferences say they are "committed" to their league, UNTIL those teams that can jump for a better opportunity that comes along to join a more stable conference and earn more money. West Virginia for instance will jump to the SEC at the first opportunity they get. UConn and Rutgers will jump to the ACC or Big 10 (if invited) at the first opportunity.
AND Texas, with their heads in the clouds, thinks they control college football and that conferences will either do what THEY want the conference to do, or THEY won't join. The problem is that the stable conferences are not about to invite Texas on Texas' terms. They will join under the conferences terms or they simply will not be invited. Same with Notre Dame.
The only conference that needs Texas is the Big-12 and Texas knows it can do whatever it wants in that conference and all the rest of the conference ADs are just bobbin heads saying yes to whatever Texas demands.
NOW even Oklahoma has to be subservient to Texas and its demands...for the time being, until a conference decides it wants Oklahoma--perhaps the SEC to complete its 14 team conference. The problem is that Okie St is tied to Oklahoma's leg like a wart on a hand, so wherever Oklahoma goes, Okie State has to tag along. No BCS conference is going to invite JUST okie st. The SEC is not going to invite both Oklahoma and okie state unless Texas comes along to even the package...However, they would invite just Oklahoma if they could...So Oklahoma is NOW tied to Texas' leg and Texas can tell Oklahoma what to do, just like they do the rest of the conference.
So Texas needs the Big 12 as much as the Big 12 needs Texas. Why, because Texas has no where else to go unless they decide to just become another member with all teams sharing equally. Ahhh, but some say, Texas will go independent. Will they really? What happens to the rest of their sports, especially baseball, basketball, and women's bb? Where to they go? Certainly not the Big 12...well the way the Big 12 works, maybe they would. In reality, where would these teams go...CUSA and become irrelevant in those sports compared to the rest of the major conferences?
And poor little Isu and Jamie Pollard (the biggest bobbin head of all ADs)...well, they accept whatever Texas and Oklahoma tell them to do. Oh, they might complain and act like they are an equal partner but they know they are one of the most irrelevant schools in the country and especially in the Big 12 and they simply have little to no say about what happens.
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09-22-2011, 07:19 AM
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Re: Will the BCS Last Beyond 2014?
Good read NewMex, strange you placed it in this thread, but still good. In your 2nd big paragraph fix it to say Big 12 not Pac 12.
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09-22-2011, 07:24 AM
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Re: Will the BCS Last Beyond 2014?
the bcs is going nowhere however I fully expect there to be a playoffs in 3 or 4 years
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09-22-2011, 07:34 AM
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Re: Will the BCS Last Beyond 2014?
I certainly hope it goes away by 2014.
BTW....Wetzel is updating his book and it'll be available in Oct. I've already placed my pre-order.
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09-22-2011, 07:58 AM
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Re: Will the BCS Last Beyond 2014?
I hope it does but it all depends on the TV & sponser contracts.
If someone comes up with a legit playoff proposal or BCS like garbage bowl games whatever one has the best and most reliable financial deal, that will be what they presidents and AD's support as "what is best for our student athletes."
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09-22-2011, 08:28 AM
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Re: Will the BCS Last Beyond 2014?
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I hope they use soft paper so it doesn't hurt when I wipe my azz with it.
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09-22-2011, 08:34 AM
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Re: Will the BCS Last Beyond 2014?
Unfortunately ... I see the BCS surviving at least one more round of contracts before we have a shot at a playoff
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09-22-2011, 08:36 AM
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Re: Will the BCS Last Beyond 2014?
Currently, college football has the best regular season of any sport.... but the worst, by far, post season of any sport.
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09-22-2011, 08:44 AM
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Re: Will the BCS Last Beyond 2014?
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Currently, college football has the best regular season of any sport.... but the worst, by far, post season of any sport.
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unfortunately I think those two things are connected.
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09-22-2011, 09:07 AM
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Re: Will the BCS Last Beyond 2014?
The BCS will continue past 2014, but I think they'll probably put in a "Plus 1" model beginning in 2015. If the superconferences indeed happen, then a plus 1 works well with it. If the conferences remain in their current format with only a few small changes that also can work with a plus 1 scenario.
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09-22-2011, 09:49 AM
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Re: Will the BCS Last Beyond 2014?
I'd be fine with a +1.
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