What are you guys hearing about BCS?

[CAARHawk]

If they go with this model, Delaney and Scott are going to be watching this whole thing happen from the sidelines every year.

The Big 12 will have a team in, the SEC will have two and the other will come from one of the other weaker leagues.

It will be very, very hard that a team gets through P12, or B1G with another game against the other conference without at least one loss, and very unlikely for a second team to get there.

That is, unless the B1G changes their plan and they go to an SEC conference play model. In that case, don't expect to see some B1G teams play Iowa for a long, long time.

[TecmoSuperHawk]

The people down here have been right about a lot of things. They are buying Brando's claim about the top four teams in the polls playing in a seeded tournament.

I keep telling them that I don't see Delaney or Scott going for that deal. But they are sticking to their guns.

Are you guys hearing anything different?

I think Larry Scott backing Jim Delany's plan is a big deal. Those 2 are very powerful and influential. I think this plan must be implemented too for logistical reasons.

Think about this as an Iowa fan (or any fan base really) if the bowls are used for a "Final Four". Iowa finishes #4 in the BCS and plays the #1 team in the Fiesta Bowl just before or just after Christmas. Let's say Iowa wins. Within 10 days you then play the championship game in the Orange Bowl. How many fans could really make both trips? Very, very few. Now some could make one or the other, but what if you wait out for the Orange Bowl trip that doesn't materialize. That could be 10,000 fans or more that don't go to the Fiesta Bowl because of that.

Could you imagine these bowls with half empty stadiums? It would be a disaster. Allowing the #1 and #2 teams to host a 1st round of playoffs makes the most sense while also giving those top 2 teams that earned it, an advantage over the #3 and #4 seed.

[kuhntz]

Yes. Whoever creates the first poll is still going to say something like this:

"Well LSU & Alabama are in the SEC, which is better than the Big XII. Therefore, LSU is #1, Bama is #2, and Oklahoma is #3".

Or something like that. It won't matter any more what has actually happened on the field than it does today. The only thing that will change is what week these polls come out. If teams are overrated in week 1, they will lose and drop out of the picture anyway.

That's the beauty of the NFL - there are no rankings, and the only thing that matters is your record when determining who plays in the post-season. The teams in the playoffs are there because they earned it in the regular season, and there are no politics involved in that. Nothing is decided by some homer that thinks that team A is better than team B because of the conference they play in, or because they think these two teams will draw better TV ratings, or any other arbitrary reason.

Which is why there should be no playoff in College football, because there would still be rankings and politics involved in determining who is in the playoffs. College doesn't have divisions and salary caps, we have conferences and tradition.

Bowl week(s) is the best time of the year, college football everyday all day...leave it alone. Already have the NFL for a playoff system that allows 6 and 7 loss teams to win the title.

[ssckelley]

8 teams doesn't necesarily ruin the bowl season. The bowl season is already 3 weeks long. You have the first round near or before Xmas, you have the "final four" on new years day, and the NC game on the Januray 7th or so (the same time it is now).

All the other bowls are free to go back to thier previous historic conference alignments with each making thier own rules for selecting teams if thier top choices get gobbled up with the NC game.

It completely ruins it. You would turn the bowl system into some kind of NIT where unless you're in it no one is watching it. Once you create a 8 team tournament field a 16 team one will not be far behind it.

[DuffMan]

It completely ruins it. You would turn the bowl system into some kind of NIT where unless you're in it no one is watching it. Once you create a 8 team tournament field a 16 team one will not be far behind it.

Do you think anyone watches the Insight bowl now unless their teams are in it? It's not going to have a major impact on the bowl games, if anything it will bring back the tradition. It adds only three games to the schedule and frees up the Rose, Orange, Fiesta, and Sugar bowls to go BACK to thier traditional conference alignments.

Bowl season kicks off with the first round playoffs around xmas. This ADDS excitement to the beginning of the bowl season. Round two is on New Years day along with traditonal New Years bowl games like the Rose.

It ends around Jan 7th with the most exciting and meaningful bowl game in the history of college football.

The ONLY bowls that loose luster in this scenario are the mediocre "January" bowl games that don't really mean much anyway.

Besides all that an 8 team playoff is probably the ONLY way Iowa ever wins a NC. We are unlikely to ever make a BCS title game. However we CAN win the B10 title game and get a shot in an 8 team playoff.

[ssckelley]

Do you think anyone watches the Insight bowl now unless their teams are in it?

Yes, people are watching them or they would not be on TV. At minimum I watch the B1G teams to see how they matchup against other conferences.

It's not going to have a major impact on the bowl games, if anything it will bring back the tradition. It adds only three games to the schedule and frees up the Rose, Orange, Fiesta, and Sugar bowls to go BACK to thier traditional conference alignments.

Bowl season kicks off with the first round playoffs around xmas. This ADDS excitement to the beginning of the bowl season. Round two is on New Years day along with traditonal New Years bowl games like the Rose.

It ends around Jan 7th with the most exciting and meaningful bowl game in the history of college football.

The ONLY bowls that loose luster in this scenario are the mediocre "January" bowl games that don't really mean much anyway.

Besides all that an 8 team playoff is probably the ONLY way Iowa ever wins a NC. We are unlikely to ever make a BCS title game. However we CAN win the B10 title game and get a shot in an 8 team playoff.

Everything you describe here ruins the bowl system. No one would care about any of the bowls and a ton of money would be lost. This would also have a huge negative impact on the economy of those communities that host bowl games. Bowl games are unique in that they offer a holiday like atmosphere and a lot of people use them as getaway vacations. A playoff system like this completely changes all of that. The only way a playoff system would work is by having them hosted at the lower seeds sites, no way would you get full stadiums by having all three rounds hosted at neutral sites.

A plus 1 is the only way to go.

[DuffMan]

Yes, people are watching them or they would not be on TV. At minimum I watch the B1G teams to see how they matchup against other conferences.



Everything you describe here ruins the bowl system. No one would care about any of the bowls and a ton of money would be lost. This would also have a huge negative impact on the economy of those communities that host bowl games. Bowl games are unique in that they offer a holiday like atmosphere and a lot of people use them as getaway vacations. A playoff system like this completely changes all of that. The only way a playoff system would work is by having them hosted at the lower seeds sites, no way would you get full stadiums by having all three rounds hosted at neutral sites.

A plus 1 is the only way to go.

Looks like we are going to disagree here also. Again the luster has come off the bowls a long time ago, and they did it themselves by making me watch the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl.

An 8 team playoff adds exactly 3 games to the bowl season, games that would be very highly watched.

To do that you would probably have to eliminate 3 bottom of the barrel bowl games (The Potato bowl plus two others), that would be a GOOD thing.

The remainder of the bowls would be unaffected. All the other bowls will continue to offer getaway vaccations, teams will continue to enjoy going, and fans will continue to watch.

Again if anything it will allow tradition to come BACK to the bowl games, as the Rose Bowl can go back to always pitting the B10 V the P10. The Orange can go Big12 V ACC. Etc...

The only thing I can't figure out is why you like being wrong so much.

[Bubbrub]

Yes, people are watching them or they would not be on TV. At minimum I watch the B1G teams to see how they matchup against other conferences.



Everything you describe here ruins the bowl system. No one would care about any of the bowls and a ton of money would be lost. This would also have a huge negative impact on the economy of those communities that host bowl games. Bowl games are unique in that they offer a holiday like atmosphere and a lot of people use them as getaway vacations. A playoff system like this completely changes all of that. The only way a playoff system would work is by having them hosted at the lower seeds sites, no way would you get full stadiums by having all three rounds hosted at neutral sites.

A plus 1 is the only way to go.

Ruining the bowl system would be a great thing! Hosting a playoff game would generate revenue for the host city that would otherwise go to the bowl city. I'd love to see this happen in some form.

[tm3308]

I hear this alot, but how do you really do that, even if you don't officially vote on you still got every magazine and website in the nation making their own rankings each week. So I really don't know what difference this would make, the first week they come out it's just going to look very similiar to the unofficial rankings from the week before.

It's really not hard. The AP and coaches polls would simply not vote until week 8. Who cares about what Rivals, Bleacher Report, or any other random ranking says? Those polls have zero impact on the BCS.

[DwayneTwill]

Which is why there should be no playoff in College football, because there would still be rankings and politics involved in determining who is in the playoffs. College doesn't have divisions and salary caps, we have conferences and tradition.

Bowl week(s) is the best time of the year, college football everyday all day...leave it alone. Already have the NFL for a playoff system that allows 6 and 7 loss teams to win the title.

Agree 100%. Playoffs suck.

[ssckelley]

Looks like we are going to disagree here also. Again the luster has come off the bowls a long time ago, and they did it themselves by making me watch the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl.

An 8 team playoff adds exactly 3 games to the bowl season, games that would be very highly watched.

To do that you would probably have to eliminate 3 bottom of the barrel bowl games (The Potato bowl plus two others), that would be a GOOD thing.

The remainder of the bowls would be unaffected. All the other bowls will continue to offer getaway vaccations, teams will continue to enjoy going, and fans will continue to watch.

Again if anything it will allow tradition to come BACK to the bowl games, as the Rose Bowl can go back to always pitting the B10 V the P10. The Orange can go Big12 V ACC. Etc...

The only thing I can't figure out is why you like being wrong so much.

Duff, you can't have it both ways. They either need to keep the bowl system and do a +1 or get rid of the bowl system and go to a 16 team playoff. Once you go to a play off system these bowls will be worthless. I know you argue they are worthless now but at least now you feel like they are playing for something. With a playoff system the bowls will be like the NIT, CBI, and CIT for basketball.

BTW, I could care less if I am wrong or not. After being married for 15 years you forget what it feels like to be right anyway.

[vegashawki]

How will NCAA and SEC argue that 4 SEC teams should be in playoff. Alambama vs Arkansas in one bracket LSU vs Florida in another!? Has to be 8 teams playoff to throw us weak conferences a bone, plus let us keep our other bowls so we don't feel left out.

[WhitUp]

It's really not hard. The AP and coaches polls would simply not vote until week 8. Who cares about what Rivals, Bleacher Report, or any other random ranking says? Those polls have zero impact on the BCS.

You serious who cares? If Iowa's 6-1 you aint going to be looking at ESPN and CBS sports power rankings every week to see where we are at? If their isn't any official rankings, everyone would care about the unofficial ones. And then when the official ones finally came out I guarantee you they'd look exactly like the "unofficial" ones.

[DuffMan]

Looks like we are going to disagree here also. Again the luster has come off the bowls a long time ago, and they did it themselves by making me watch the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl. An 8 team playoff adds exactly 3 games to the bowl season, games that would be very highly watched. To do that you would probably have to eliminate 3 bottom of the barrel bowl games (The Potato bowl plus two others), that would be a GOOD thing. The remainder of the bowls would be unaffected. All the other bowls will continue to offer getaway vaccations, teams will continue to enjoy going, and fans will continue to watch. Again if anything it will allow tradition to come BACK to the bowl games, as the Rose Bowl can go back to always pitting the B10 V the P10. The Orange can go Big12 V ACC. Etc... The only thing I can't figure out is why you like being wrong so much. :D

Duff, you can't have it both ways. They either need to keep the bowl system and do a 1 or get rid of the bowl system and go to a 16 team playoff. Once you go to a play off system these bowls will be worthless. I know you argue they are worthless now but at least now you feel like they are playing for something. With a playoff system the bowls will be like the NIT, CBI, and CIT for basketball.BTW, I could care less if I am wrong or not. After being married for 15 years you forget what it feels like to be right anyway. ;)

respectfully there are currently 35 post season games, 34 of which have nothing to do with the national championship and everything to do with pride. how does a playoff/bowl combo change that? will the insight bowl mean less? how? why?

[CAARHawk]

Still don't buy it. I think if anything happens it occurs in 2014 and happens with an announcement on superconferences. As it is right now it just completely is loaded to give the B12 an automatic team in and the SEC with two others. Scott and Delaney will be vying for one spot with every other team in the country, while playing brutal schedules. I just don't see how it is good business.