Bowlsby Vs. The ACC

[Hawks7]

I could easily see a big game of musical chairs happening in a conference expansion/reordering between B12 & P12 country...and ISU get left standing at the end. especially if the B12 wants to move East in a big way.

Bowlsby may be thinking of building a new "Big Market" version of the SEC: B12 South coupled with ACC South, with old B12 North left to hang out and dry.

From a trust factor i cant see Bowlsby getting rid of any members of the of the big 12 conference. I do think getting Florida st and Clemson would be huge win for the big 12. Does any one know when the big tens tv contracts are up? If the big ten expands i hope the following teams come in Duke, North Carolina, Maryland, and Virgina. This is a lot of big huge tv markets.

[herkyattack]

From a trust factor i cant see Bowlsby getting rid of any members of the of the big 12 conference. I do think getting Florida st and Clemson would be huge win for the big 12. Does any one know when the big tens tv contracts are up? If the big ten expands i hope the following teams come in Duke, North Carolina, Maryland, and Virgina. This is a lot of big huge tv markets.

Maybe for basketball. Nobody watches Duke or Maryland football. And football is where the $$$ is.

[CAARHawk]

From a trust factor i cant see Bowlsby getting rid of any members of the of the big 12 conference. I do think getting Florida st and Clemson would be huge win for the big 12. Does any one know when the big tens tv contracts are up? If the big ten expands i hope the following teams come in Duke, North Carolina, Maryland, and Virgina. This is a lot of big huge tv markets.

I wouldn't expect Duke and Carolina. Only need one Carolina school to expand that footprint. Also think this is why Maryland is possible. True, they aren't a big football school, but it expands the footprint. ND is the only school I could see that wouldn't expand the footprint that I could see the B1G going after.

[Hawks7]

I wouldn't expect Duke and Carolina. Only need one Carolina school to expand that footprint. Also think this is why Maryland is possible. True, they aren't a big football school, but it expands the footprint. ND is the only school I could see that wouldn't expand the footprint that I could see the B1G going after.

I cant see NC coming without duke, they seemed to tied together!!! Just my opinion. North Carolina is a huge state i believe 15 million and growing, it would be worth it to add these eye balls.

[CAARHawk]

I cant see NC coming without duke, they seemed to tied together!!! Just my opinion. North Carolina is a huge state i believe 15 million and growing, it would be worth it to add these eye balls.

They are tied together, but that is contingent on the ACC. If the ACC implodes, Duke will look really attractive to the basketball schools, but not so much for the football schools. Carolina will definitely want to be in a primary football conference.

They can always play an annual game like Louisville/UK.

Wake is also an interesting case. That could be the one that Bowlsby goes after. So it could end up like this UNC(B1G) NC State (SEC) Wake (B12) Duke (BE/ACC).

This is a pure thinking off the top of my head guess.

[Hawks7]

They are tied together, but that is contingent on the ACC. If the ACC implodes, Duke will look really attractive to the basketball schools, but not so much for the football schools. Carolina will definitely want to be in a primary football conference.

They can always play an annual game like Louisville/UK.

Wake is also an interesting case. That could be the one that Bowlsby goes after. So it could end up like this UNC(B1G) NC State (SEC) Wake (B12) Duke (BE/ACC).

This is a pure thinking off the top of my head guess.

With the resources North Carolina has it is a sleeping giant....

[hawkdrummer1]

I could easily see a big game of musical chairs happening in a conference expansion/reordering between B12 & P12 country...and ISU get left standing at the end. especially if the B12 wants to move East in a big way.

Bowlsby may be thinking of building a new "Big Market" version of the SEC: B12 South coupled with ACC South, with old B12 North left to hang out and dry.

I could see this. Kansas, Nebraska, Western Iowa, are pretty sparse markets. The great plains (Dakotas down to Okie) don't offer much...demographically $peaking. Nebraska and Mizzou look pretty smart now with their respective moves.

[CAARHawk]

With the resources North Carolina has it is a sleeping giant....

Yep. Said the same thing in an earlier post. Need to stop getting their players ruled ineligible due to violations though.

[slickwillard]

I could see this. Kansas, Nebraska, Western Iowa, are pretty sparse markets. The great plains (Dakotas down to Okie) don't offer much...demographically $peaking. Nebraska and Mizzou look pretty smart now with their respective moves.

Something tells me you grumble about ISU while you sleep as well.

[hawkdrummer1]

Something tells me you grumble about ISU while you sleep as well.

funny...ISU isn't mentioned anywhere in the post you quoted. Grumble...never. Snicker...perhaps.

[slickwillard]

funny...ISU isn't mentioned anywhere in the post you quoted. Grumble...never. Snicker...perhaps.

Yeah, that was an oops. Sorry I grabbed the one comment you had without an ISU bash in it. Grumble grumble.

[hawkdrummer1]

Yeah, that was an oops. Sorry I grabbed the one comment you had without an ISU bash in it. Grumble grumble.

It's no secret that I'm a clone-hater Willie, we all have our reasons. Mine date back quite a few years...and are continually validated. So I love to see em struggle and sweat.

[CWooD4]

It's no secret that I'm a clone-hater Willie, we all have our reasons. Mine date back quite a few years...and are continually validated. So I love to see em struggle and sweat.

Except ISU really isn't in a position of sweatin' this one out unlike the first go around with realignment.

It has to crush Hawk fans dreams since ISU has yet to fall into the MAC or any lowly conference.

[hawkdrummer1]

Except ISU really isn't in a position of sweatin' this one out unlike the first go around with realignment.

It has to crush Hawk fans dreams since ISU has yet to fall into the MAC or any lowly conference.

It would be amusing and somewhat fitting if that happened (water does eventually seek it's own level) but won't affect Iowa much one way of the other. "Dreams"? Hardly.

Though I understand that Clones do have dreams about Iowa. Or rather...about becoming an Iowa. And they are most definitely dreams.

We're the dominant program in the state...always have been, even in down years. That ain't about to change.

[JHHawk]

On College Football Live the other day,one of their announcers,Ed Something, said the way he sees it going is that out of all the chaos will be strong bb conferences like the Big East,having a different football league,where geography is unimportant...ie.Boise for football,but not bb. Travel to Boise for football only happens like every other year tops,so geography not nearly as important.

I could see the Big Ten,SEC,Big Twelve and Pac 12 emerging as the super four football leagues,with Boise to Pac 12 along with 3 others who are basically anywhere on the map,football only.

Then Big East and ACC are tough bb leagues with weird configurations of football schools to make out there schedules. Atlantic Ten probably gets divided to provide bb schools.

I think it is inevitable so I hope that the Big Ten ends up with ND,UNC,Md, and either Rutgers or UVa.

Those divisions would work as pods,with Iowa playing Minny,Wisky and Neb every year,and rotating among the rest. Not a huge fan of this but it is hard to see how the 4 team playoffs does not lead to 4 superleagues. If you wanted to make it a 16 team playoff,it easily could happen with each division winner playing within the league for the first couple of games to come up with the conference champ,then the semis between the SEC,Pac 12,Big 12 and Big Ten title holders and a title game of winners. It would kill the bowls,and would mean that Iowa would probably only rarely play in postseason,and fire their coach every 4 years,but some fans would be happy with that I guess....it would be their holy grail of a playoff.