[herbyhawk]

with Faith Iowa moved into rivals Top 50 recruiting classes
Buford commits and Iowa drops out
they must deduct points for anybody that is a 2* or less

[BSpringsteen]

Of course they do.

It is about averages. If a team has 20 commits and they are all 5 stars, doesn't it stand to reason that a team with 20 commits and 10 5 stars and 10 4 stars would be ranked lower?

[CPHAWK82]

I saw Iowa move to the 51st ranking after Faith committed, then we moved to 49th after Buford committed, then the next day, we're back at 51, so who knows what happened. Buford is the 102nd ranked cb (3 star)

[atxhawk]

Scout and Rivals both do it off of some sort of points system they've devised and not off of the average stars recruits get. So a team with a higher total number of recruits can rank higher than a team with fewer, but higher rated recruits.

Scout has Texas ranked #1 with 23 total commits, 5808 points, 7 top 100, 5 five star, and 11 four star recruits with total average of 3.87. FSU is 9th with only 15 commits, 3843 points, 6 top 100, 4 five star, and 8 four star recruits for a class average of 4.07.

Over on Rivals, Texas is again ranked #1 with 25 total commits, 2368 points, 2 five star, 13 four star, and a 3.64 average. FSU is ranked 4th with 16 commits, 1831 points, 2 five star, 9 four star, and a 3.75 average.

So I'm guessing that other schools have been signing more people also. Interesting that the two sites have different numbers for the total amount of recruits for the two comparison schools.

[atxhawk]

Oh and let's not forget that the SEC schools will again be oversigning and inflate their total score, thus moving them up in the rankings compared to schools that follow the rules.

[herbyhawk]

just don't undestand Buford is a two star on rivals
then Scout has Ward as a 3* and Rivals has him as a Top 100

[imported_ankle23]

Originally Posted by atxhawk

Oh and let's not forget that the SEC schools will again be oversigning and inflate their total score, thus moving them up in the rankings compared to schools that follow the rules.

nothing like being able to sign 5 recruiting classes in a 4 year timeframe.......

[olivecourt]

Originally Posted by BSpringsteen

Of course they do.

It is about averages. If a team has 20 commits and they are all 5 stars, doesn't it stand to reason that a team with 20 commits and 10 5 stars and 10 4 stars would be ranked lower?

What this doesn't explain is how a team like Virginia, with a 2.92 average star rating, is ranked #17 in the country. They also have Purdue at #3 in the Big Ten with zero players at four stars or higher:

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2012 Virginia Commitments

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2012 Purdue Commitments

What these schools have over Iowa's class is quantity, not quality. Seems like a silly way to judge recruiting especially when one conference always oversigns.

[herbyhawk]

just did a quick look and if you avg out the stars of all the commits
it comes to a even 3.0 avg, 8 3*, 3 4* and 3 2*

[PatrickAdamovicz]

I go with the ESPN rankings. I think they are more accurate.

[archiehawk]

Regardless of how rankings are done Iowa being near 50th in recruiting is unexcusable.

[DeputyHawk]

Originally Posted by archiehawk

Regardless of how rankings are done Iowa being near 50th in recruiting is unexcusable.

This. Our recruiting is a joke.

[olivecourt]

Originally Posted by archiehawk

Regardless of how rankings are done Iowa being near 50th in recruiting is unexcusable.

Would you be happier if we had the #17 recruiting class? Because I'm looking at it and I can't figure out why it's better than Iowa's at all, let alone 30+ spots better:

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2012 Virginia Commitments

[MikeyJoe]

Originally Posted by olivecourt

Would you be happier if we had the #17 recruiting class? Because I'm looking at it and I can't figure out why it's better than Iowa's at all, let alone 30+ spots better:

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2012 Virginia Commitments

Because they have 25 commitments with 4 4* players and we have 14 with 3. Whatever formula Rivals is using obviously has some sort of total function in it.

As to the OP, it's probably not that the commit moved Iowa down, it's that they got jumped by other schools. Remember, the rankings are all relative. As Iowa was signing players other schools are too.

[herbyhawk]

the 3 2* are Buford a db, the punter and i very rarely see a punter ranked any better than that and Taylor the lb from Michigan
the 3* are not the low level score on the rankings most are 5.6
so i don't understand Rivals ranking