[daverhawk]

Originally Posted by hawkfarmer

my post was sarcastic as all of those guys played as freshman. Pointing out that if you're talented you play before 2 or 3 years in the system.

Sorry about that.

[Fossil71]

Originally Posted by STILLBUSTER

Love how everyone gets boners over these guys as if they mean anything right now. Bank it, unless his hand is forced by either injury or attrition, these "saviors" are not going to sniff the field for 2 or 3 years.

Two immutable facts as long as KF is in charge:

1) Seniority and experience will get the nod over youthful talent.
2) Execution (to the point of perfection) is far more preferred over the potential risk of a youthful mistake.

As demonstrated in earlier posts, point 1 is not even close to an immutable fact. You can add Mike Jones to the list of numerous freshman who have made their way into the starting lineup.

Point 2 is well taken.

[hawxrox09]

Originally Posted by STILLBUSTER

Love how everyone gets boners over these guys as if they mean anything right now. Bank it, unless his hand is forced by either injury or attrition, these "saviors" are not going to sniff the field for 2 or 3 years.

Two immutable facts as long as KF is in charge:

1) Seniority and experience will get the nod over youthful talent.
2) Execution (to the point of perfection) is far more preferred over the potential risk of a youthful mistake.

Cases in point last year:
1) Herman and Derby over Fiedorowicz for most of the season. Why? Because they could block better? Meanwhile, the TE (an integral mainstay of the offense) production is almost non-existent during a season it was desparately needed.
(When the "light went on" regarding CJ, it wasn't so much for the player, it was for the coach realizing the risk / reward and potential / experience trade-off.)

2) Tobin over Walsh, Scherff and Donnal? Of course! There's no such thing as a 4* 6'5"+, 290#+ offensive lineman that could ever be ready to play before his sophomore (better yet, junior) year. Way to much possibility for lack of understanding this sophisticated offense and making an execution error.

3) During a year when the DL was getting pushed around -- allowing the opponent to basically establish the line of scrimmage 2 - 3 yards further downfield -- you basically sit your two, 290-300# run-pluggers in Cooper and Davis? Why, because they might overplay a gap (even though they would consume a blocker at the first level, rather than be a nothing more than a bug on the windshield) and supposedly have motor issues?

I'm just not that convinced that Iowa suffers from a talent issue as it suffers from a failure to use talent issue.

Not sure why you are replying to me.. someone stated we had a few 4 star commits the last few years and I just listed them.