[hawkdrummer1]

ok JoPa is officially senile. They were discussing Nebraska's entry into the league and asked Joe about Penn State's first year in the Big Ten. He says... Well, we'd already played a lot of the Big Ten teams. We played Illinois a couple times... Purdue, Wisconsin, Iowa State...

Iowa State?! Come on Joe....

Just for fun, I looked at Penn St's schedule back then. They joined the Big Ten in 1993. The last Big Ten team on their schedule before that was Iowa in 1984.

And going back all the way to 1970...they had 4 games against Iowa and 2 against Ohio St. Never played Wisconsin...Purdue....Illinois... (or "Iowa State"). Joe is definitely slipping.

[Ronco]

Really, he said that and you looked up their schedule for fun? Huh, on both counts.

[hawkdrummer1]

Yeah, I couldn't recall what year they started Big Ten play and was curious who they had played coming in. I also was curious when IOWA had played them, and wondered if they HAD ever played Iowa State.

The rest is just a quick scroll down the page. There's a lot of information out here at the quick click of a mouse...you should try it sometime.

[SayHawkKid]

Originally Posted by hawkdrummer1

ok JoPa is officially senile. They were discussing Nebraska's entry into the league and asked Joe about Penn State's first year in the Big Ten. He says... Well, we'd already played a lot of the Big Ten teams. We played Illinois a couple times... Purdue, Wisconsin, Iowa State...

Iowa State?! Come on Joe....

Just for fun, I looked at Penn St's schedule back then. They joined the Big Ten in 1993. The last Big Ten team on their schedule before that was Iowa in 1984.

And going back all the way to 1970...they had 4 games against Iowa and 2 against Ohio St. Never played Wisconsin...Purdue....Illinois... (or "Iowa State"). Joe is definitely slipping.

I thought he said Ohio State, not Iowa State. Also, he coached against Illinois in 1972, tOSU in 75,76,78,80, Mich St 1966, Wisc 1970. PSU had not played Purdue since 1952 when they joined the BT.

[hawkdrummer1]

Originally Posted by SayHawkKid

I thought he said Ohio State, not Iowa State. Also, he coached against Illinois in 1972, tOSU in 75,76,78,80, Mich St 1966, Wisc 1970. PSU had not played Purdue since 1952 when they joined the BT.

He may have said Ohio St, the east coast accent probably threw me.

As for the rest..your numbers are consistent with my point. His inference was, the Big Ten transition was easier for them, because he "knew" many of these teams coming in...they'd been playing them. When in reality, it was a generation or more since most of that took place. (20 years for Illinois, 22 years for Wisconsin, 26 since Mich St, 41 since Purdue etc) None of these teams had even remotely the same coaching staff or look.

20+ years is a pretty big "margin of error" I love JoPa, he's an icon. But I tend to side with those that say it's time (past time perhaps) for him to retire.

[CyBroncos]

Originally Posted by hawkdrummer1

20+ years is a pretty big "margin of error" I love JoPa, he's an icon. But I tend to side with those that say it's time (past time perhaps) for him to retire.

I wish that he'd hang it up as well but I like still having Joe Pa around...college football wouldn't be the same without him.