[homerHAWKeye777]

While Iowa fans shouldn't underestimate the young man ... but we ought to consider the following fact:

- Through BOTH high school and junior college, Jantz has started but ONE season!!!

Furthermore, he certainly had incredible stats in his single season starting at San Francisco City College. However, I did some digging and found out that SFCC is well known for having exceptional talent. In other words, part of what contributed to his success there was the fact that he was on a team with superior talent ... they outclassed their opponents pretty much every time they stepped on the field.

Is that going to be true when he's playing for Iowa State? I don't think so.

Don't get me wrong ... I'm sure he's a fine player. However, color me skeptical ....

The one feather in his cap is that he QBed the Hawaii scout team ... so he had experience having to learn how to be a rather precision passer in a pass-happy system. In that regard ... he may, in fact, be a QB who is a better fit for Herman's system. However, we'll see ...

[Ozhawk]

I am assuming Steve Jantz is the qb for Iowa State.

We do not play them until the second game so I could care less until then.

Are you worried about any of the other team's QB on our scedule?

If so why do you single out Jantz?

ISU is a non conference game

[9YRPLAN]

we will be somewhere between the 9th-12th best QB we face this year.

if this cat's name were Joe Smith the hype would be 10% of what it is.

[1hawkeye1]

What does it matter whether the fans under-estimate him or not?

[imported_ankle23]

tough crowd for a saturday.

this post ultimately, i think, boils down to fans wanting football already! short of that, all we can do is talk.

just some good information about a guy who is getting a lot of hype, and i believe what 9 year says that his name is genuinely adding to the central iowa hype machine, anyway.

[Section136]

Originally Posted by Ozhawk

I am assuming Steve Jantz is the qb for Iowa State.

We do not play them until the second game so I could care less until then.

Are you worried about any of the other team's QB on our scedule?

If so why do you single out Jantz?

ISU is a non conference game

How much less could you care? Judging by your post I would have assumed you COULDN'T care less.

[Ozhawk]

Originally Posted by Section136

How much less could you care? Judging by your post I would have assumed you COULDN'T care less.

Sorry should have proofed my post. How careless of me.

[DodgerHawki]

Originally Posted by homerHAWKeye777

While Iowa fans shouldn't underestimate the young man ... but we ought to consider the following fact:

- Through BOTH high school and junior college, Jantz has started but ONE season!!!

Furthermore, he certainly had incredible stats in his single season starting at San Francisco City College. However, I did some digging and found out that SFCC is well known for having exceptional talent. In other words, part of what contributed to his success there was the fact that he was on a team with superior talent ... they outclassed their opponents pretty much every time they stepped on the field.

Is that going to be true when he's playing for Iowa State? I don't think so.

Don't get me wrong ... I'm sure he's a fine player. However, color me skeptical ....

The one feather in his cap is that he QBed the Hawaii scout team ... so he had experience having to learn how to be a rather precision passer in a pass-happy system. In that regard ... he may, in fact, be a QB who is a better fit for Herman's system. However, we'll see ...

and that he played with great talent on his HS team in Florida. I believe the two wideouts are headed to Florida State and somewhere else big (not sure).

I can't image Jantz won't be an upgrade over Arnaud in that offense. You simply cannot run the offense ISU does with a QB who is not accurate.

[hawkeyescott]

Originally Posted by homerHAWKeye777

While Iowa fans shouldn't underestimate the young man ... but we ought to consider the following fact:

- Through BOTH high school and junior college, Jantz has started but ONE season!!!

Furthermore, he certainly had incredible stats in his single season starting at San Francisco City College. However, I did some digging and found out that SFCC is well known for having exceptional talent. In other words, part of what contributed to his success there was the fact that he was on a team with superior talent ... they outclassed their opponents pretty much every time they stepped on the field.

Is that going to be true when he's playing for Iowa State? I don't think so.

Don't get me wrong ... I'm sure he's a fine player. However, color me skeptical ....

The one feather in his cap is that he QBed the Hawaii scout team ... so he had experience having to learn how to be a rather precision passer in a pass-happy system. In that regard ... he may, in fact, be a QB who is a better fit for Herman's system. However, we'll see ...

Homer you should know better, running the scout team means he was running other teams O's and I don't know what they run in the WAC or whatever conference Hawaii is in but I doubt those teams run that same type of O so he didn't really get that experience in a pass happy system.

Sure he had to learn what Hawaii wanted to run but he was probably running other O's 95% of his time in Hawaii and running Hawaii's the other 5%.

[imported_ankle23]

Originally Posted by DodgerHawki

and that he played with great talent on his HS team in Florida. I believe the two wideouts are headed to Florida State and somewhere else big (not sure).

I can't image Jantz won't be an upgrade over Arnaud in that offense. You simply cannot run the offense ISU does with a QB who is not accurate.

dodger - i'm sure you are referencing iowa's QB from florida - Ruddock - and his situation was exactly what i thought when reading this article. i.e. you can say the same thing about him that you can about Jantz. he certainly had an 'all world' team around him at the high school level.

[Mesaclone]

Arnaud was a great kid...but he was never an especially accurate thrower and was poorly suited to the Herman style of offense. More of a pro-style guy. Jantz, rumor has it, is a much more accurate passer and much better at the deep throw as well. He's a big kid too...at 224 and runs very well (faster than Arnaud, not quite as powerful). Arnaud was also a very strong leader and gutsy player...and that's an open question as far as Jantz goes right now. Keep in mind, he suffered a terrible injury late in his High School career and that's why he lacked scholly offers out of high school. He bounced around for a year at Hawaii and then transferred to Juco...where he produced impressive numbers in a very tough league.

But the truth is, we don't know how good or bad the kid will be. Its a true unknown for us fans, even those of us watching closely and reading every practice report/rumor. We simply won't know what we have until we see how he does against Iowa and UNI. After that, we should have an idea.

[NewMexHawk]

Ruddock is not going to start at QB for the Hawks. He will learn the system and will have time to adjust to the college game.

Jantz is being thrown to the dogs because the clowns simply have no one else to run their team.

I wouldn't even be surprised if he has a tough time against UNI, a very tough time and will have trouble generating an offense against UNI. UNI could very well win that game.

If UNI wins, hold onto your hat Nellie because it is going to be tough in ames. The fans might just give up earlier than usual.

[ShadasRevenge]

Originally Posted by NewMexHawk

Ruddock is not going to start at QB for the Hawks. He will learn the system and will have time to adjust to the college game.

Jantz is being thrown to the dogs because the clowns simply have no one else to run their team.

I wouldn't even be surprised if he has a tough time against UNI, a very tough time and will have trouble generating an offense against UNI. UNI could very well win that game.

If UNI wins, hold onto your hat Nellie because it is going to be tough in ames. The fans might just give up earlier than usual.

I'll set the O/U at Columbus Day, 2 full weeks earlier than usual.

[imported_ankle23]

Originally Posted by Mesaclone

Arnaud was a great kid...but he was never an especially accurate thrower and was poorly suited to the Herman style of offense. More of a pro-style guy. Jantz, rumor has it, is a much more accurate passer and much better at the deep throw as well. He's a big kid too...at 224 and runs very well (faster than Arnaud, not quite as powerful). Arnaud was also a very strong leader and gutsy player...and that's an open question as far as Jantz goes right now. Keep in mind, he suffered a terrible injury late in his High School career and that's why he lacked scholly offers out of high school. He bounced around for a year at Hawaii and then transferred to Juco...where he produced impressive numbers in a very tough league.

But the truth is, we don't know how good or bad the kid will be. Its a true unknown for us fans, even those of us watching closely and reading every practice report/rumor. We simply won't know what we have until we see how he does against Iowa and UNI. After that, we should have an idea.

I haven't seen Jantz other than on TV. I'm shocked that he reportedly weighs 225. Is he really tall? If I were to have guessed, I'd have described him as 6' 185#. But again, only seen him recently on TV.

Using another player that we are familiar with as a comparison, Coker is listed at 6' 230. I can't imagine Jantz is 5# lighter than Coker, just based on visuals. Unless he is much taller than I thought.

and finally new mex is correct on the comparison between Ruddock and Jantz.

[GoHawks24]

Originally Posted by hawkeyescott

Homer you should know better, running the scout team means he was running other teams O's and I don't know what they run in the WAC or whatever conference Hawaii is in but I doubt those teams run that same type of O so he didn't really get that experience in a pass happy system.

Sure he had to learn what Hawaii wanted to run but he was probably running other O's 95% of his time in Hawaii and running Hawaii's the other 5%.

Beat me to it!

I could see Jantz being a more effective QB than AA was (and that's just a complete hunch; I'm not too familiar with his career), but it may take him a little bit to get acclimated. Luckily for us, we play them early.