[eyekwah]

Oklahoma State Cowboys booster T. Boone Pickens says Big 12's 'got a problem' if Missouri leaves - ESPN

I reviewed the 2010 attendance figures for conferences. If Missouri would leave the Big 12 would have only two members in the top 30. The lost of Nebraska and A&M were huge for attendance, both were in the top 15. Replacing Missouri with BYU would get the conference back to 3 within the top 30. BYU and Missouri are basically the same in attendance.

For comparison the B1G has 7 teams in the top 21 in attendance. Illinois exceeds the attendance of OKSU, which is fourth if Missouri is exited. Purdue and Minnesota, despite bad seasons, exceeded Kansas, Iowa State, Baylor and basically matched Kansas State.

Could attendance be the problems behind revenue sharing in the Big 12? If the Big 12 adopted the equal sharing model essentially Texas and Oklahoma would be carrying the load for the remaining schools. In Missouri's case they might end up with more funds because the SEC might actually add more than just TV monies. It could actually get a subsidy from the SEC, probably very little.

In looking at this objectively it will be a difficult task for the Big 12 to hang on to Missouri. The SEC may not be the academic conference of the ACC or B1G, but it is no worse than the Big 12. To ask two schools to carry the water for the remaining members may not fly. Texas and Oklahoma are competing with the top schools in other conferences more so than with other members of their conference. They have a selfish interest to hang on to the proceeds they generate.

The Big 12 has a difficult task and Pickens isn't wealthy by ignoring the numbers.

[ssckelley]

Missouri going to the SEC hurts the B12, the Big Ten, and Iowa. Now you have the SEC in our backyard which would have an impact on fan base as well as recruiting.

But the B12 survives with or without Missouri as long as Texas keeps insisting on hanging on to it's LHN. Texas wants to remain in a conference and the B12 is their only option if it plans to keep all the revenues they get from LHN. So Texas greed pretty much assures the B12 will stay together as no other conference will have them.

[JonDMiller]

Its bad for the B12 because Mizzou is a very attractive TV draw. I'd also like to see them stick around the B12 for a few more years and eventually join the Big Ten

[bwsmoney]

I like Missouri and Kansas to the Big10, it makes a lot of sense, and it's good for Iowa ... Don't know how the Big10 sees it, but it's really a no-brainer for me ... I think they even make more sense than Notre Dame in everything other than football

[silvanthalas]

T. Boone needs to STFU already. The only thing Okie St. is going to do is follow Oklahoma around like a lost puppy.

Not to mention, this is an ESPN story, and we all know that ESPN (sarcasm)desperately (/sarcasm) cares about the Big 12.

[ColumbusHawk]

The Big Ten is the only conference that shares ticket revenue. When the Big 12, or any other conference, talks about revenue sharing it concerns TV revenue.

Iowa State does not get one thin dime for tickets sold for conference games in Austin or Norman. In contrast, through the Big Ten's ticket revenue sharing plan, Northwestern will probably be subsidized to the tune of a little over $1.8 million this year. Because of ticket revenue sharing, Iowa loses about $750,000 a year in revenue.

[Snowcraig]

Originally Posted by bwsmoney

I like Missouri and Kansas to the Big10, it makes a lot of sense, and it's good for Iowa ... Don't know how the Big10 sees it, but it's really a no-brainer for me ... I think they even make more sense than Notre Dame in everything other than football

That would effectively kill ISU. Out of curiosity, how would most around here feel about that?

[imported_ankle23]

Originally Posted by Snowcraig

That would effectively kill ISU. Out of curiosity, how would most around here feel about that?

you know like one wise man once said - if you have to ask, you already know.

also - please post a picture of your g/f before leaving the stage. thank you.

[Stewo]

I gotta ask, what's so attractive about KU?

[Section136]

Originally Posted by Snowcraig

That would effectively kill ISU. Out of curiosity, how would most around here feel about that?

No sweat off my balls. Could not care less.

[troy]

Originally Posted by JonDMiller

Its bad for the B12 because Mizzou is a very attractive TV draw. I'd also like to see them stick around the B12 for a few more years and eventually join the Big Ten

I agree. Why not take Mizzou now, though? They want to leave, and also Rutgers is there for the taking. The Big Ten Commish has been interested in Rutgers for years. Why not take both programs now?

[83Hawk]

Originally Posted by troy

I agree. Why not take Mizzou now, though? They want to leave, and also Rutgers is there for the taking. The Big Ten Commish has been interested in Rutgers for years. Why not take both programs now?

Because Rutgers adds nothing athletically to the Big 10.

Should the Big 10 expand (and I don't think they need to)....I'd be fine with Missouri. If Notre Dame applies, I'd take them too....otherwise I don't really have a preference for team #14. Just not Rutgers. Or Iowa State.

[ssckelley]

Originally Posted by troy

I agree. Why not take Mizzou now, though? They want to leave, and also Rutgers is there for the taking. The Big Ten Commish has been interested in Rutgers for years. Why not take both programs now?

Because without Notre Dame Rutgers brings you nothing more than another mouth to feed. Missouri is borderline as well, they might be able to pay for themselves bringing the Kansas City & St Louis market.

[eyekwah]

Originally Posted by Snowcraig

That would effectively kill ISU. Out of curiosity, how would most around here feel about that?

My preference is the Big Ten stay at 12 teams. This would do more to prevent ISU being forced to another conference. I think the boundaries are stretched pretty far already. The distance from Lincoln NE to State College PA is 1100 miles or an 18 hour drive.

The most desirable college in the Big Ten foot print is Notre Dame. The problem, even if you add ND, is finding a comparable member to match them for football. You would have five of the all time win-ingest programs, but you really need a sixth. To do that you would have to go outside the foot print. Oklahoma would be a candidate, but its academic credentials would be a barrier. Another option would possibly be Tennessee and again its academic credentials would be an issue.

[CloneHawk]

Originally Posted by bwsmoney

I like Missouri and Kansas to the Big10, it makes a lot of sense, and it's good for Iowa ... Don't know how the Big10 sees it, but it's really a no-brainer for me ... I think they even make more sense than Notre Dame in everything other than football

I don't think the Big 10 will want KU. Yes, they have a top 5 basketball program; but as we all know, football is what is driving conference realignment. If it was about basketball, then the Big 10 and the Pac 12 would have wanted Kansas by now.