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    Re: Fred Hoiberg on NBA radar

    Quote Originally Posted by BlckNGldHwk View Post
    of course he's gone. why do you think he told White to declare? if fred isnt thinking about leaving he tells White to stay, but he's not going to tell him to stay then bolt for the association himself. he gone.
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    Re: Fred Hoiberg on NBA radar

    Quote Originally Posted by BlckNGldHwk View Post
    of course he's gone. why do you think he told White to declare? if fred isnt thinking about leaving he tells White to stay, but he's not going to tell him to stay then bolt for the association himself. he gone.

    This is the exact same thing that Cyclone fans have been saying on an annual basis about KF...lol

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    Re: Fred Hoiberg on NBA radar

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclones17 View Post
    Last I checked the Timberwolves weren't the laughing stock of the NBA
    And they finally got rid of Hoiberg, is that a coincidence?

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    Re: Fred Hoiberg on NBA radar

    I don't get the money thing. Fred made 10 million in his playing career, let alone what he made in the front office (probably another million) and he could probably get a raise to a make a million a year as a no-brainer. If he's blown that already no amount of money he makes as an NBA head coach would probably help him.

    Wouldn't surprise me if he left, but it would surprise me with him leaving so quickly. That said, I would absolutely hate recruiting so I'd never blame anybody from leaving the college game.

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    Re: Fred Hoiberg on NBA radar

    Quote Originally Posted by HawkeyeMike23 View Post
    And they finally got rid of Hoiberg, is that a coincidence?
    Got rid of? Haha. Your lack of knowledge on all things sports related is good fun on this board.

    Kevin Love, Ricky Rubio, and Nikola Pekovic. All drafted while Hoiberg was there. Just now all able to play and are pretty solid (until Rubio went down)

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    Re: Fred Hoiberg on NBA radar

    Quote Originally Posted by JonDMiller View Post
    Difference: Ferentz is making a salary at Iowa that has him near the Top Ten in NFL coaches salaries. Hoiberg makes $800,000 base per year. Average NBA coach makes around $3.5 mil.

    So even if Pollard doubles it to 1.6mil per year (Paul Rhoads makes around $2mil a year for a sport that brings in far more revenue than hoops), Hoiberg could make 20mil in the NBA over the next 6 years and it would take him well over 10 years to make that kind of money at ISU...and be set for life at the age of 45.

    Hoiberg has talked about living with a ticking time bomb in his chest (his words, not mine). My guess is he thinks about his family and their security quite a bit due to this. It would be an interesting decision, to be sure.

    You do realize that he made millions of dollars in the NBA and the NBA front office and I am assuming he is pulling down a pretty hefty NBA pension as well.

    He deserves a raise, but you are pretty funny with your reasoning on why you think he'll leave.

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    Re: Fred Hoiberg on NBA radar

    Hoiberg made over 10 million in salary in the NBA according to ...

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    Re: Fred Hoiberg on NBA radar

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclonejen View Post
    You do realize that he made millions of dollars in the NBA and the NBA front office and I am assuming he is pulling down a pretty hefty NBA pension as well.

    He deserves a raise, but you are pretty funny with your reasoning on why you think he'll leave.
    I never said he'd leave. Did you keep reading the thread?

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    Re: Fred Hoiberg on NBA radar

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    Antoine Walker and Allen Iverson made over 100mil..and are broke. So?

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    Re: Fred Hoiberg on NBA radar

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclones17 View Post
    Got rid of? Haha. Your lack of knowledge on all things sports related is good fun on this board.

    Kevin Love, Ricky Rubio, and Nikola Pekovic. All drafted while Hoiberg was there. Just now all able to play and are pretty solid (until Rubio went down)
    Three good moves in four years, congrats Fred. That Brandon Roy for Randy Foye trade was a great move, so was drafting Johnny Flynn with a lotto pick, signing Darko to not one but two big contracts worked out well. Not to mention hiriing a coach to run a triangle when you nowhere near the personel to run that offense was a bold move too. The highlight of Fred's tenure with the T-wolves was them handing KG over to the Celtics for a chance to win a title. That organization was a dumpster fire the entire time he was there.

    Also for someone with a "lack of knowledge on all things sports related", it's pretty amazing how I basically predicted exactly how ISU's season would play out a year ahead of time.

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    Re: Fred Hoiberg on NBA radar

    Quote Originally Posted by JonDMiller View Post
    Antoine Walker and Allen Iverson made over 100mil..and are broke. So?
    Just supplying facts. I think Fred leaves some time if he wants to go to the NBA (similar to Kirk leaving if he wants to go to the NFL). Not sure he would do it now, but I could see it some time. I think his family will be the reason for him to make whatever decision he makes. Money may be an issue as well, but I think he has enough where it does not hurt him either way.

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    Re: Fred Hoiberg on NBA radar

    Quote Originally Posted by HawkeyeMike23 View Post
    Three good moves in four years, congrats Fred. That Brandon Roy for Randy Foye trade was a great move, so was drafting Johnny Flynn with a lotto pick, signing Darko to not one but two big contracts worked out well. Not to mention hiriing a coach to run a triangle when you nowhere near the personel to run that offense was a bold move too. The highlight of Fred's tenure with the T-wolves was them handing KG over to the Celtics for a chance to win a title. That organization was a dumpster fire the entire time he was there.

    Also for someone with a "lack of knowledge on all things sports related", it's pretty amazing how I basically predicted exactly how ISU's season would play out a year ahead of time.
    I'm sorry but was Hoiberg the owner? President? GM? You act like the guy was Matt Millen.

    You didn't predict anything correct on Iowa State. I wish Jon hadn't banned you for 6 months. I would have loved to have seen you on this board squirm when Iowa State was having success this year.

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    Re: Fred Hoiberg on NBA radar

    Quote Originally Posted by JonDMiller View Post
    I never said he'd leave. Did you keep reading the thread?

    Yes, I kept reading the thread, but I still thought your logic was very flawed. You were saying that the difference between Fred and the Captain is that the Captain makes a ton more money (very true) and Fred makes crap money (very true). But you failed to mention that Fred has made a ton of money over his 20 year career. So it is very likely that his family is VERY SET for money. And I think you got your reference screwed up. He's referred to his heart as a 'ticking time bomb' in the past tense---as in it was until it was discovered 5 years ago. But I don't think he refers to it as that now.

    For the record, I think that Hoiberg likes the NBA game a lot. And I think that he coaches the college game a lot like the NBA. And I think that he will be mentioned for almost any NBA coaching job that opens up. And I think that if he leaves Iowa State it will be for an NBA coaching job. But he won't take an NBA coaching job for the money. It'll be because he WANTS to coach the NBA.

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    Re: Fred Hoiberg on NBA radar

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclones17 View Post
    I'm sorry but was Hoiberg the owner? President? GM? You act like the guy was Matt Millen.

    You didn't predict anything correct on Iowa State. I wish Jon hadn't banned you for 6 months. I would have loved to have seen you on this board squirm when Iowa State was having success this year.
    Man it's sad just how desperately you need to be relevant to us. Much as you guys deny the "little brother" angle...you continually reinforce it with your actions.

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    Re: Fred Hoiberg on NBA radar

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    Antoine Walker and Allen Iverson made over 100mil..and are broke. So?
    He gone.

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