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    Quote Originally Posted by jacknicholson View Post
    Despite all, May did not cause us to lose this game.....

    He didn't cause us to win it either.

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    Re: Eric May

    Quote Originally Posted by djwoody98 View Post
    Oglesby was one of our best players in the 2nd half.
    I really liked Josh today, he did make some tough shots, he is developing his mid-range jump shot very well, as has been mentioned. He is a dependable player who makes few turnovers, and can be relied upon to handle the ball when needed. His offense can only get better, and he will provide some serious thrills down the road. Josh is a pure shooter and is gaining valuable experience each and every game. He seems to be able to play on the road, having a stellar game at Indiana, and today at Assembly Hall.....

    We will bury them next year at Carver, schedule permitting.....

    I pity the Cornhuskers.....


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    Re: Eric May

    Quote Originally Posted by 1st View Post
    He didn't cause us to win it either.
    This is true. He did not win the game for us.....

    That is on Eric for certain.....


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    Not sure what happened to him but he plays with no confidence and doesn't seem to contribute much of anything. He was playing bad before the injury, too so you can't blame it on that. What happened to the days of him out on the Wing on the break flying around and dunking on people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacknicholson View Post
    Despite all, May did not cause us to lose this game.....

    agreed i think it might have something to do with 2-20 shooting not including gatens shooting in first half but idk!
    Here at Iowa we want to get to the point where we don't have to rebuild, rebuild should not be a word in the dictionary at the University of Iowa, only RELOAD!!!

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    Seriously? Eric May has not been a significant part of this team for probably 10+ games now, yet we still seem to find a need to post something negative about the kid? Wow. Get off it already and leave the kid alone. I'd love to know how many posters who constantly rip this kid have ever laced them up and ATTEMPTED to play at this level.

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    He did not cause us to lose the game, but our bench is virtually incapable of contributing anything on the offensive end. So few scoring options....

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    May made the right decision. He would have been blocked under the basket,so he took it out and ended up with a wide open shot. He missed the shot but it was still the right decision. He is clearly rusty and probably still hurting. He was trying to help,get off his butt.

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    Maybe the guys not the greatest Hawkeye bball player that ever lived, but the dudes hurt, got striped of his starting job, at least he wants to be a hawk. He could of gone the Fuller, Tucker, Kelly, Cougill, T.Smith and ......'s of the Iowa basketball world who bailed and are probably at fault for our last 3 years of sucking even more then todd lickliter is. But he didn't so cut the dude some freaking slack!
    Last edited by WhitUp; 02-27-2012 at 12:34 AM.

  10. #25

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1st View Post
    He didn't cause us to win it either.
    Solid point.... The guy who played 3 minutes didn't cause us to win the game.

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    Seems like a lot of misplaced anger when it comes to May. I have been guilty of it during games, but it isn't May that I am frustrated with.

    Is May the best basketball player on the team? No.

    However, I asked myself tonight... who else do we put in when we are giving one of the main guys a rest? Is there really a backup guard on the team that is that much better than May? I couldn't really think of one.

    We have Marble, BC, JO, Gatens, and throw White out there on the wing as well.

    I felt like Marble was struggling offensively and I don't think it helped that BC was playing the point. Marble seems to play better when he is running the point and it just seemed like he was having a hard time getting into a rhythm on the offensive side of the ball. He was also guarded pretty tightly most of the night.

    I felt like White was struggling tonight, but maybe I am wrong. Just the way I saw it.

    BC was completely ineffective on offense tonight. He was not a threat, but like I said, he wasn't the only one and I don't think it is his role to be a scorer.

    JO played a good amount of minutes and struggled at first, but he is more of a streaky player/shooter at this point. He started hitting his shots later in the game.

    Our post players were not going to have an easy time tonight and Leonard pretty much took them out of the game on the offensive side from what I could tell.

    Gatens is our biggest offensive outside threat and he was really the only one that was consistently dangerous on offense tonight so Illinois had a pretty easy job on defense... all they had to do was make sure he never had room to breathe and they didn't have to worry about anyone else other than Marble. We can't expect Gatens to hit crazy shot after crazy shot and score 90% of our points.

    They made it difficult to penetrate and forced us to make our jumpers... unfortunately... we struggled to hit our shots and find a rhythm on offense for most of the game.

    So when those guys are struggling and/or need a breather and you need someone to come in at the guard position that has the ability to make an outside shot... Who else should Fran have put in other than May? I guess I couldn't really think of a better option.

    MY POINT (TL;DR VERSION):
    It isn't May's fault. I'm sure he wishes he was a better scorer/shooter, but he can't control that. He can only work hard and play to the best of his abilities when he is put into the game. I'm not a huge fan of May, but I don't think ANYONE could say that he doesn't work hard and try his best when he is out there.

    People are frustrated because we don't have the depth and talent on the bench for nights like this. This is what happens when you have a have a basketball program that was a complete disaster for the past few years. Tonight we needed someone to come in that could contribute on offense and May isn't that guy. We can't expect him to be that guy either. He is a role player... and his role isn't to be a scorer I'm pretty sure or even to be an offensive type player for that matter. He brings athleticism/defense.

    I have been guilty of ripping on him and getting frustrated with his play, but it really isn't his fault and it isn't Fran's fault for putting him in. We don't have a whole lot of options when it comes to bringing in guys off the bench that are going to score. Just try not to rip on May, because at least he looked like he was working hard and trying out there. He never plays 'lazy' basketball... which is more than I could say for some guys out there at times tonight.

    This was a team loss and the team played like crap for a good portion of the game... especially on offense. We had guys going up for layups/dunks really soft and slow, missed layups, bad passes, bad communication. You definitely cannot single out May for this loss.

    STILL TL;DR VERSION:
    It isn't May's fault and he doesn't deserve to be bashed.
    Last edited by CGHawk; 02-28-2012 at 01:29 PM.

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    Re: Eric May

    Quote Originally Posted by BasketballMan View Post
    Seriously? Eric May has not been a significant part of this team for probably 10+ games now, yet we still seem to find a need to post something negative about the kid? Wow. Get off it already and leave the kid alone. I'd love to know how many posters who constantly rip this kid have ever laced them up and ATTEMPTED to play at this level.
    I will second this.... May has had a tough year plus. It may have been better for him to not have come out on fire the beginning of 2010-2011 season... Then again, having numerous nagging injuries have not help the man's game... Here is to him putting it all together for 2012-2013!

  13. #28

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawk2012 View Post
    Huh? No way we would reshirt him. Just because May is able to play doesn't mean he is able to play well. May is the Illinois basketball of players. Talent is there but he has completely lost confidence, even before the injury which has just made him much worse. The way May is playing now he makes us a worse team every time he gets on the court. He's incapable of scoring in a non-fast break situation but his injury is preventing him from running like he used to. I don't even want to see him on the court for more than a few minutes a game next year unless he improves. It's tough to do that to a senior, but Fran is here to win.
    This couldn't be further from the truth. May has absolutely ZERO basketball talent. Zero. He is an athlete, but a far cry from talented basketball player. He can't dribble, can't shoot, poor decision maker, and only and avg defender and rebounder. There is no talent there; it's called athleticism. Said athleticism will make you look talented when your competition is Iowa high school bball. However, you're exposed, as May was, when you start playing talented, athletic kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SheagleHawk View Post
    This couldn't be further from the truth. May has absolutely ZERO basketball talent. Zero. He is an athlete, but a far cry from talented basketball player. He can't dribble, can't shoot, poor decision maker, and only and avg defender and rebounder. There is no talent there; it's called athleticism. Said athleticism will make you look talented when your competition is Iowa high school bball. However, you're exposed, as May was, when you start playing talented, athletic kids.
    Although this may be a little harsh, I think it's close to the truth. May is almost done with his junior year, and really hasn't produced much. I'm not sure where people are thinking he is this uber-talented player that just hasn't found his confidence yet, or is underachieving, etc. There's a difference between being a good athlete and a good basketball player.

    You can throw a lob to him from time to time due to his athleticism, but I can't think of much else that May really brings to the table. Yeah, he's had a few nice games in the non-conference against the IPFW's of the world, but year after year, he disappears in Big Ten play once the level of competition gets going. I agree with others that May will see very limited minutes next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1977Hawkeye View Post
    Although this may be a little harsh, I think it's close to the truth. May is almost done with his junior year, and really hasn't produced much. I'm not sure where people are thinking he is this uber-talented player that just hasn't found his confidence yet, or is underachieving, etc. There's a difference between being a good athlete and a good basketball player.

    You can throw a lob to him from time to time due to his athleticism, but I can't think of much else that May really brings to the table. Yeah, he's had a few nice games in the non-conference against the IPFW's of the world, but year after year, he disappears in Big Ten play once the level of competition gets going. I agree with others that May will see very limited minutes next year.

    I didn't mean it to be so harsh. Just tired of waterheads who fail to understand the difference between talent and athleticism.

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