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    Re: First Glance Predictions for 12-13?

    Quote Originally Posted by CAARHawk View Post
    Iowa will be so much faster next year it will be mind blowing. However, this will lead to some sloppy play, before everyone catches up to the speed of the game. Watching a certain player get caught in no man's land on D over and over yesterday really highlighted how challenged this team has been on quickness over the last four years.
    quickness was the main place oregon had us and i believe that we will be much better in that area next year. we lose bc who was our quickest player but bring in 2 pgs that are probably just as quick if not quicker. gatens wasnt the quickest but was intelligent enough to make up for it. but ingram will be an upgrade in quickness (defensively). woodbury will most likely take over at center and even if he isnt quicker than mccabe his height will help out. also marble can move to the wing which makes him a little quicker because the wings arent as quick as pgs.

    hopefully this added quickness will allow for less rotation and help on defense because we rotate very slowly and poorly breakdown so people go flying by our rotating defender (especially white - probably his only weakness this yr).

    i am not worried about offense because i think gatens and bc will get absorbed from the incoming frosh and marble and white and basabe and ogelsby stepping up. but we will need someone to be a defensive stopper like matt was. i would prefer it not be marble (though he most likely has the biggest upside here). i would prefer someone other than marble because i believe some of matt's bad games were due to fatigue of playing 35+ mins guarding the top scorer on the other team. since i see marble being the main guy (and yesterday just cemented that) i dont want him to have as big of off days. if marble is the guy on defense too hopefully ogelsby or may or ingram can spell his time on the top wing scorer a little more than gatens got spelled this yr.

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    Re: First Glance Predictions for 12-13?

    I'm thinking around 21 wins overall with a winning record in the Big Ten. They play the same conference schedule next year with the exception of the 4 one game teams, they flip those (OSU and Mich on the road, MSU and IL at home). They were close enoguh that even accounting for the upset wins I think they can improve their B1G mark by a couple of wins.

    I think they end up around 78 ppg on offense and give up around 72 again on defense. I think their tempo picks up some, though it will be limited somewhat by the Bo Ryans of the B1G. I also think the make the Tourney at around an 8-10 seed.

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    Re: First Glance Predictions for 12-13?

    There's a reason Devyn had so many wide-open looks against Oregon and our post players were unstoppable against Dayton. After Gatens' run teams went all-out to stop him. That left huge passing lanes open in the Dayton game and sagging defense against Marble in the Oregon game. You don't replace that overnight.

    My guess is that we're legitimately on the bubble for NCAAs next year. In or out, who knows. I will say that having a high seed (1 or 2), hosting a couple of games, and making a deep run in the NIT (getting to the Garden) wouldn't bother me at all. That tournament is turning out to be pretty damn cool.

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    I see at least 20 wins. Sweet 16 looks solid. Looking forward to beating Clones at Carver. We are going to be tough at home next year!!

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    Re: First Glance Predictions for 12-13?

    Quote Originally Posted by olivecourt View Post
    My guess is that we're legitimately on the bubble for NCAAs next year. In or out, who knows. I will say that having a high seed (1 or 2), hosting a couple of games, and making a deep run in the NIT (getting to the Garden) wouldn't bother me at all. That tournament is turning out to be pretty damn cool.
    That's pretty much about what I expect for next year. We aren't losing a lot of players this year in terms of numbers, but Gatens is one big loss, and the newcomers are still freshmen, so they will be a little up and down. But the returning players ought to be improved, so I think in the end, next year will resemble this year, except for a bit improved IMO.

    Conservatively, I will pick the Hawks as a bubble team that ends up in the NIT, but think the team will have a shot to sneak into the NCAA's as a lower seed (10 or so).

    As others have said, the year after next (2013-14) could be more of a breakout season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by okeefe4prez View Post
    Dude, go join another forum. This team will win 28 games minimum and probably over 30 BEFORE the tournament. Final Four and then it will be a gamble if we get a national title. Will need some help to knock out one or two of the big boys.

    Do you think you are funny, witty, or original? Seriously, I have no idea why you post this moronic garbage in every forum available to you. The OP posed a legit quesion and you respond with your canned stupid response.

    It's guys like you that ruin these forums for everyone, but as long as you amuse yourself right.....

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    Re: First Glance Predictions for 12-13?

    Quote Originally Posted by RocknRollface View Post
    Gatens really isn't that big of a loss. He had six or so games this season in a row where he was really good, other than that he has been average.

    He was pretty much a non factor in the two nit games.
    This is very dumb.

    A lot of our other guys got some pretty wide open looks because of the attention Gatens received from the other teams defense. Just because Gatens didnt put up a ton of points in the last few games doesnt mean he had no effect on the game.

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    Re: First Glance Predictions for 12-13?

    Quote Originally Posted by hawkIhoops View Post
    Do you think you are funny, witty, or original? Seriously, I have no idea why you post this moronic garbage in every forum available to you. The OP posed a legit quesion and you respond with your canned stupid response.

    It's guys like you that ruin these forums for everyone, but as long as you amuse yourself right.....
    How many times are you going to complain about this?

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    Re: First Glance Predictions for 12-13?

    gesell - 8 pts, 4 assts
    ogelsby - 9 pts 2 assts
    marble - 12 pts 3 assts
    white - 14 pts, 6 rebs
    woodbury - 7 pts, 8 rebs, 1 block

    basabe - 9 pts, 7 rebs, 1 blocks
    clemmons - 5 pts, 5 assts, 2 steals
    mccabe - 8 pts, 5 rebs
    ingram - 4 pts, 2 rebs
    meyer - 6 pts, 3 rebs

    I think with some Defense this team could end up as a 4 seed in the BT and a 8 seed in the NCAA Tournament

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    Re: First Glance Predictions for 12-13?

    11-2 OOC
    11-7 B1G

    22-9 Overall

    4 seed in the B1G Tourney and win one.

    23-10 heading into the NCAA Tourney as a 6 seed.

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    Re: First Glance Predictions for 12-13?

    Quote Originally Posted by hawkIhoops View Post
    Do you think you are funny, witty, or original? Seriously, I have no idea why you post this moronic garbage in every forum available to you. The OP posed a legit quesion and you respond with your canned stupid response.

    It's guys like you that ruin these forums for everyone, but as long as you amuse yourself right.....
    Oh, so an optimistic assessment that we will win 28-30 games is ruining the forums for everyone, huh? Here's a newsflash, a bunch of Hawk killers (Sullinger, Green, Shurna, Hummel, Taylor, etc.) are either graduating or are likely to leave the B10. Iowa is also likely to get better and won't drop games to teams like Campbell, Clemson, Northwestern, Nebraska, Penn State, etc. Based on how this team played at the end of the season, 3 wins in the BTT is also a strong possibility. We will not lose the games we shouldn't lose and we will also have even more success against the top teams in the conference. It's gonna be a big season and sorry if I can't be as negative as you would like.
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    We were 16-15 in the regular season this year and I think we should see an improvement overall in the wins/loss totals next year. My guess however is that we see more wins in the OOC schedule and a win or two less in the B1G. 17 or 18 wins is probably where we will end up, and as long as we don't see any crappy losses to no-names and Nebby, we should be a solid lock for higher NIT seeds. And if the chips fall right maybe a dance bubble team.
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    Re: First Glance Predictions for 12-13?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkfromnorwalk View Post
    We were 16-15 in the regular season this year and I think we should see an improvement overall in the wins/loss totals next year. My guess however is that we see more wins in the OOC schedule and a win or two less in the B1G. 17 or 18 wins is probably where we will end up, and as long as we don't see any crappy losses to no-names and Nebby, we should be a solid lock for higher NIT seeds. And if the chips fall right maybe a dance bubble team.
    Dont understand your reasoning in regards to our B1G record. We play the same teams as we did this year. We get Illinois and MSU at home and travel to OSU and Michigan. We play every other team home and away.

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    Re: First Glance Predictions for 12-13?

    Quote Originally Posted by Section136 View Post
    11-2 OOC
    11-7 B1G

    22-9 Overall

    4 seed in the B1G Tourney and win one.

    23-10 heading into the NCAA Tourney as a 6 seed.
    Other than I think they get one fewer win in conference and a slightly lower seed in the NCAA, I agree. While the Gatens and Cartwright losses hurt, combine what they have back with what they are bringing in, there should be some improvement next year, though I think a bit less than this year. If they can really nail down the defensive end, however, they could see a massive improvement. I'm basing my projections on similar or slightly better D as I think they see a significant jump in offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHHawk View Post
    I am hoping Fran adds a juco wing who can defend,slash and score some.
    If that happens: I see Iowa winning about 10-11 games in the non-conference.
    Then in the league...8-10 wins. Overall 18-21 wins.
    In the league,we will be battling for the 6th or 7th position,which puts us squarely on the bubble. It will be MSU,Mich,OSU,IU,Wis....then for 6th and 7th,which probably will be tourny teams, it will be a battle between Iowa,NW,Purdue,Ill, and Minny. Only PSU and Neb will be true bottomfeeders.

    Hawks will be back to the NIT or slip into the NCAA next year.
    The Big Ten will be the best league in the country once again,but will get more respect with 7 or 8 teams in the Dance.
    Couldn't agree more!

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