’18 Football Recruiting Big Board 1.0

Discussion in 'Recruiting' started by RobHowe, Feb 7, 2017.

  1. RobHowe

    RobHowe Administrator

    Our first Class of 2018 Football Recruiting Big Board looks at 25 high school juniors being pursued by the Hawkeye coaching staff:

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  2. ISUhawk

    ISUhawk Well-Known Member

    Great list Rob. I'm really hoping the early work we put in with all of the Missouri kids pays off. Trout and Thompson are freaks and seem to have a nice relationship with AJ.
     
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  3. RobHowe

    RobHowe Administrator

    Thank you. AJ could help in the STL area, especially because he'll play right away. It's incredibly loaded down there.
     
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  4. homes

    homes Well-Known Member

    And the ink is barely dry on the 2017 class. This just goes to prove that recruiting is a never ending project. It's a blood sport out there, eat or be eaten.
     
  5. HuckFinn

    HuckFinn Well-Known Member

    Good stuff, Rob. Thanks for the hard work and detail on these guys. I did, however, warn you that I am OD'ed on recruiting and basketball. Just be aware...
     
  6. RobHowe

    RobHowe Administrator

    Thanks. You can take a recruiting break. Come back after you're rested up. ;)
     
  7. Stanzi

    Stanzi Well-Known Member

    As a Dowling alum I really hope they land Waggoner.
     
  8. judzeehawk

    judzeehawk Well-Known Member

    Here we go again! :)
     
  9. imported_ankle23

    imported_ankle23 Well-Known Member

    Is Waggoner a legacy?
     
  10. Marinehawk

    Marinehawk Well-Known Member

    Does Iowa State offer everybody we offer or what?
     
  11. Stanzi

    Stanzi Well-Known Member

    It sure seems that way. I chuckle at some of the players they've offered.
     
  12. SpiderRico

    SpiderRico Well-Known Member

    When Beils was at Wisky, he did that ALL the time. He'd wait to see who we offered and then he'd offer almost immediately afterwards. It's why the staff moved to slow-playing some of the "diamonds in the rough" they'd find...they got tired of him recruiting over them.
     
  13. taffaej

    taffaej Well-Known Member

    I'm really glad to see we have offered some of the same kids MAC schools have. It should prevent us from having to back track and poach them next January.

    Let the 2018 fun begin ;)
     
  14. deanvogs

    deanvogs Well-Known Member

    Iowa tells the kids they will get offers once Iowa offers. Bell told that to Brandon Smith, and sure enough schools came for him, but he told them he was committed.

    AJ said the same thing when he was on with Rob. He said Michigan and Bama came calling and he told them his recruiting was shut down, so they left him alone. This is the big reason Iowa wants kids to be certain they are committed when they commit. When other schools come calling, Iowa knows, that if the kid cracks the door even a half inch, opposition schools will push and push and push until that door is open. It is exactly what Iowa does, and the only way schools give up is if the kid says enough, I'm not interested.
     
  15. RobHowe

    RobHowe Administrator

    Exactly. If you understand Iowa's policy, there is no hypocrisy in it. The staff needs to contact committed recruits just like other programs contact its committed recruits. It's a game everyone must play. There is no gentlemen's agreement like there used to be in the B1G.

    If the Hawkeyes contact a kid committed to Rutgers or Minnesota and he says he's not interested, they move on. If he is interested, they engage and try to get him on campus. If he visits Iowa, then it's up to Rutgers and Minnesota how they want to handle it. They can continue to recruit the kid or pull his offer.

    If another school contacts an Iowa commitment and he decides to visit that program, it's then on Iowa to decide what it wants to do. Its policy is to pull the offer.

    Now, you can say that the policy is out-dated and Iowa needs to be more flexible with the current high school player. But it's not hypocrisy.
     
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  16. PCHawk

    PCHawk Well-Known Member

    In this age of committing to a school just to secure a spot while you shop around for something better, the policy actually makes more sense to have than it used to. The problem with it is you won't get many early commits and you will end up scrambling to fill the class right before signing day.

    It seems like the point of he policy is to know exactly where you stand with recruits, but it will probably have the exact opposite effect. At least when they're committed you have a pretty good idea where they stand. If they are afraid to even commit, the staff will have even less of an idea where they stand. I would think it would be easier to lock up as many kids as you can early, have less open spots to concentrate on, and worry about a couple decomits when they happen, then to have hardly any early commits and have a lot bigger net cast out there to deal with.
     
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  17. ohhawk

    ohhawk Well-Known Member

    If you can tell me how many Iowa verbals would have eventually departed prior to signing if they had the liberty to take additional visits w/o any penalty then I can tell you how effective the no visit policy has been for Iowa.

    There's some pretty good salesmen out there that can likely persuade many an 18 year old into changing their minds. Unless you are one of the more noted programs that can flip top talent later in the race then I'm not sure you want to be going into the last quarter mile with a lot of uncertainty as to who is staying aboard as one of your verbals and who isn't.

    I will be surprised if Kirk changes his no visit approach.
     
  18. deanvogs

    deanvogs Well-Known Member

    The policy also led to problem early enough that Iowa wasn't able to secure actual recruits that have a shot at replacing the kids who didn't come here. No Graham for Higdon situation where you basically get zero RB. We got Bryant who is a top notch recruit. We got Marsette who is a good recruit. We got Creamer, who is a good recruit.

    We had plenty of time to get in on other kids to replace them, instead of holding a bag of nothing at the end.
     
  19. ISUhawk

    ISUhawk Well-Known Member

    Waggoner was offered by Michigan today. I assume ND is going to offer at some point. I hope Morgan is all over him.
     
  20. RobHowe

    RobHowe Administrator

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