2 game suspension

Discussion in 'Basketball' started by spliff45, Feb 27, 2019.

  1. Robowe

    Robowe Well-Known Member

    Um, you asked this question ... :)

    In what other profession are you allowed to act like a child, scream and degrade someone and keep your job?
     
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  2. IHawk94

    IHawk94 Well-Known Member

    Andrew Francis will be acting head coach against Rutgers and Sherman Dillard against Wisconsin, as they have the scouts on those teams individually.
     
  3. HawkeyeHypnosis

    HawkeyeHypnosis Well-Known Member

    Just go away.
     
  4. kicker22

    kicker22 Well-Known Member

    I'm definitely not one to defend the talking heads, but they're going to run with it because he brought this completely upon himself. Fran is a face of a program, if he doesn't want this type of publicity for himself or the program then maybe he should consider acting like a professional and not a child.
     
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  5. IHawk94

    IHawk94 Well-Known Member

    Fran said he would present Nicholas Baer on senior night and be in the arena if that hasn't been answered yet.
     
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  6. IHawk94

    IHawk94 Well-Known Member

    And he has apologized for it. I'm more a less talking about the national reporters who didn't watch the game, know fran or his family personally, etc. who will sit there on social media and say he's a bad guy, and he's a monster, etc. His actions last night could have been better, for sure, not defending that although I don't agree with the suspension, but it is what it is.
     
  7. kicker22

    kicker22 Well-Known Member

    Regardless about what I think of his actions, I'm glad to hear that for the both Fran and Nicholas. It's a special night for Nicholas and I'm sure it would have been really hard on the two of them if Fran were unable to be there to celebrate it with him.
     
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  8. Knight78

    Knight78 Well-Known Member

    Have you never played a high level sport? These guys (all players on all 14 teams in the Big 10) have their hearts and souls invested in the game and are expending a LOT of energy. As I had said, all they want is consistency. They haven't had it from game to game; heck, they don't get it from play to play. It's bound to overflow. Yes, when I played after my college days, I got T'ed up for saying some really stupid things; mainly when I saw things like what happened last night - INCONSISTENCY. Never swore but definitely said some stupid things.

    I got 1 T in my playing days in high school. At that time, the player who committed the foul had to raise his hand when the ref called his number. I fouled a guy while he was shooting and left my hand in the air; got T'ed up for not raising my hand acknowledging the foul.

    I agree that the officials had nothing to do with Iowa losing. But when Wesson mauls people down low and gets no call and then on the next trip breathing too hard on a player is a foul.... well, I can see how players would get caught up in the emotion of the moment and really not like what the ref has done. Officiating is tough. But making bad calls and then making a "make-up call" doesn't help. And to my point, if you watched the Wisconsin vs Indiana game even Dakich was questioning how something was or was not called a foul. Ethan Happ went for
     
  9. Robowe

    Robowe Well-Known Member

  10. Knight78

    Knight78 Well-Known Member

    I wasn't there but I'll venture a guess that Fran did let him know during the game, thus the T. The calls didn't change after that, though. They were still bad. Even the announcers were questioning why Chris Holtmann wasn't more angry with the calls - and that was in the first half.
     
  11. Robowe

    Robowe Well-Known Member

    Ah, those were the days (having to raise your hand to acknowledge a foul). Can you imagine that still happening today? How about even numbers for home uniforms, and odd numbers for road uniforms? :)
     
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  12. Knight78

    Knight78 Well-Known Member

    When I was coaching, an opposing coach had written down all of his players' away numbers for a home game. He had a tech for each player with the wrong number in the book (even after being questioned by his scorekeeper!). I had a real good free throw shooter and we started the game ahead 14-0. Ended up winning by 20.
     
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  13. kicker22

    kicker22 Well-Known Member

    I guess you touched on my thought as well but from the opposite perspective. You're absolutely right that people around the sport don't know him and unfortunately now have an opinion of him. But apology or not, he's an ambassador for the University, the face of the program, the leader of the team, and above all else a father and husband. He knows he's in the spotlight at all times and whether right or wrong, sorry or not sorry, he put himself in that position and single handedly brought all this upon himself and those that care about him. There's a time and place for everyone and as I said earlier if he'd of let loose on the court and got himself his 2nd technical it would have been perceived entirely differently and this is nowhere near the headline it is now.

    I get the apology and do I think he means it? Probably, but the fact remains 90% of us would be unemployed if we if we did something like that.
     
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  14. Hawk90

    Hawk90 Well-Known Member

    Sure Fran.
     
  15. IHawk94

    IHawk94 Well-Known Member

    100% agree he is an ambassador of the University and to his family and himself and his team for that matter, no problem with that as he could've dealt with the emotion in a different manner (i.e. Brian Ferentz) by going to Barta and getting those officials reported to the B10 headquarters. I mean Robbie Hummel, who's my favorite analyst on the BTN, said after the press conference today he should've handled it better, but it's done he'll serve his suspension and we'll move on. That's more of my thought I suppose. I also was in the OP saying that the statements from former players and current players are not lame because they see Fran from the inside looking out and all we see is from the outside looking in. They are important and needed in a situation like this.

    Also, 90% of us aren't NCAA D1 basketball coaches as much as we think we are on this board. But I get what you're saying. The OP (predator40) is a very emotional poster it seems.
     
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  16. kicker22

    kicker22 Well-Known Member

    Sometimes they'll change sometimes they won't but in my playing and coaching days I've learned two things. You never put a hand on an official during a discussion and you never interact with them after a game if you've got something on your mind because it's not going to change anything.

    So he called a terrible game, no argument there. But what positive could possibly come from Fran's interaction with him in the tunnel. I'm sure that'll make things better next time they cross paths or Fran has an issue with a bad call.
     
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  17. WindsorHawk

    WindsorHawk Well-Known Member

    The ref he called probably wasn’t a cheater.
     
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  18. Northside Hawk

    Northside Hawk Well-Known Member

    OK I was wrong twice. Speraw must have had the Northwestern scout when Fran was suspended in 2014.

    Don't know how he can swing senior night when suspended but there's lots of things I don't know.
     
  19. Northside Hawk

    Northside Hawk Well-Known Member

    This is true. I've worked at the scorers table for high school games and once the ref has okayed the lineups and player numbers any changes will result a technical foul. Barring injury or illness in warmups.
     
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  20. IHawk94

    IHawk94 Well-Known Member

    He'll probably just go on the court pre-game and then leave.
     
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