#### skinnykilmer17

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After Rd 1. And this with some questionable seedings of Big 10 teams.

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After Rd 1. And this with some questionable seedings of Big 10 teams.

Yes. And of the 4 Big 12 losses how many of those teams were the higher seed?

That's correct. All 4. One was an 8 vs 9 game but the other 3? 6 vs 11 and 5 vs 12 and 3 vs 14.

Love to hear the Oklahoma AD (selection chair) defend that crap. Overseeded AND Overrated.

All 5 Pac 12 losses were with teams seeded higher as well.

yeah, but the only thing people are gonna see (and somewhat rightfully so) is MSU going down to a 15 seed. btw, how does the big 10 get THREE 5 seeds?

Yeah Sparty really laid an egg.

After Rd 1. And this with some questionable seedings of Big 10 teams.

Pretty sure only 7 BIG teams made the tourney.

Yes. And of the 4 Big 12 losses how many of those teams were the higher seed?

That's correct. All 4. One was an 8 vs 9 game but the other 3? 6 vs 11 and 5 vs 12 and 3 vs 14.

Love to hear the Oklahoma AD (selection chair) defend that crap. Overseeded AND Overrated.

All 5 Pac 12 losses were with teams seeded higher as well.

Only people with complaints is ACC. They rolled, the other P5 conferences are 1 big pool of average.

MSU got smoked by a 15 seed, WVU got smoked by a 14 seed.

Lets see where things stand Monday, ACC could realistically have 7 teams in the sweet 16.. That is sic.

Pretty sure only 7 BIG teams made the tourney.

Positive Michigan played twice.

This isn't the NBA. But I think 7 teams from a conference is comparable to a 7 game series. This discussion isn't about 1 team or 1 game. It's about several teams and several games. So from a "conference" perspective it isn't 1 and done.

Yes, there are upsets every year. MSU was a big upset. But... No one said the Big 10 was the toughest league this year. decent, but not the best. Seems almost all were saying the Big 12 was best. truth is, the Big 12 has laid big old turds in the NCAA tourney for a number of years. Kansas is the Big 12 in basketball and even they usually under perform in the tournament. When another team besides Kansas finally wins that league, maybe you could start talking about toughness of the league. Until then, it is Kansas and the 9 dwarfs.

And to your point about judging conferences by first round performances..When 4 out of 7 teams in the "alleged" best league lose in the first round to 9,11,13, and 14 seeds, one can't help but come to the conclusion that maybe the league was not as tough as advertised, especially when you factor in that the league has sucked in recent years in the tourney. The reality of modern college basketball is that teams and leagues are judged by NCAA performance. maybe not right but that's the way it is.

Only people with complaints is ACC. They rolled, the other P5 conferences are 1 big pool of average.

MSU got smoked by a 15 seed, WVU got smoked by a 14 seed.

Lets see where things stand Monday, ACC could realistically have 7 teams in the sweet 16.. That is sic.

Yup and for like the 7th year in a row, the Big 10 kicked their *** in the Big 10/ACC challenge.

However, the Big 12 had a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 8 seed. Should be 7-0.

Michigan lost too dawg

Sorry. Help me out here. I'm a little slow. If the Big 10 is 5-3, where am I wrong?

Wins--Michigan, Michigan, Indiana, Iowa, Wisconsin, Maryland

Losses--Purdue, MSU

Michigan won and lost.

Michigan won and lost.

Got it! Didn't realize they lost last night.

Exactly. The NBA Finals last year was perfect example of this. In a one and done scenario Cleveland would have been the Champs. The Cavaliers were so depleted it was obvious Golden St. was the better team.

Only people with complaints is ACC. They rolled, the other P5 conferences are 1 big pool of average.

MSU got smoked by a 15 seed, WVU got smoked by a 14 seed.

Lets see where things stand Monday, ACC could realistically have 7 teams in the sweet 16.. That is sic.

It can tell you lots of things actually, more so than bowl games IMO. Bowl games don't really count or matter, the NCAA games do. It tells me that the Big12 wasn't any better than any other conference out there. Certainly nothing to brag about like Clown fans did all year long.

Also the ACC won't get 7 teams to the sweet 16......they only have 6 teams left in the tournament.