Brady Reiff Arrested?

Discussion in 'Football' started by EstronHawkKing, Jul 21, 2018.

  1. AreWeThereYet

    AreWeThereYet Well-Known Member

    You're the only one that is going to care about minor inconsistencies over a 20 year period.
  2. tksirius

    tksirius Well-Known Prostitute

    Let's be honest, Iowans have a natural affinity to nepotism. All hail the Ferentz family!
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  3. AreWeThereYet

    AreWeThereYet Well-Known Member

    Making your son offensive coordinator is a big deal. Minor differences in disciplinary action over the span of two decades is not.
  4. slankyJ

    slankyJ Well-Known Member

    I think it's bogus Reiff was arrested at all. He didn't try to drive, he did the right thing by ordering an Uber. With public intox the police shouldn't even get involved unless you're urinating in public, fighting, or vandalizing/destroying property. The cop should have either waited with him until the Uber arrived to make sure he was ok or even just gave him a ride home. The former would have made the most sense as the Uber driver was denied their fare.
  5. Fryowa

    Fryowa Well-Known Member

    My $0.02...

    37 year old Fryowa would say, “I’m in the spotlight, have a chance at maybe playing pro ball on tv as a millionaire, and have 20 year old ass being thrown at me like it’s coming from a fire hose. I better stay in my dorm and go to bed at 10 PM because IC cops love to bust football players and put them in the news.”

    22 year old Fryowa (and most of us here) would say, “I’m in the spotlight, have a chance at maybe playing pro ball on tv as a millionaire, and have 20 year old ass being thrown at me like it’s coming from a fire hose. Of course it’s a good idea to go to an after bar party with more booze and potential baby mamas who want to eventually be on Real Housewives Of North Liberty.”

    I get your point but kids don’t think like that. At that age 99% of them (myself included back then) think exactly 2 or 3 hours into their futures and think they’re invincible. Youth is wasted on the young, my friend.
  6. #1DieHardHawk

    #1DieHardHawk Well-Known Member

    To be totally fair, the officers are in a bit of a "catch 22" situation in this case. If they let him go, they run the risk of being criticized for showing favoritism to an Iowa football player. If they arrest him, they get accused of targeting student-athletes. It's a no-win situation for them.

    We have to keep in mind the safety aspect of this as well. Even if they hung around to make sure he got into an Uber, if he's drunk enough to try to climb into a police car, you have to be concerned that his safety is in question (not to mention the safety of the Uber driver). To expect them to drive him home is unrealistic. Can you imagine the backlash if some major crime occurred downtown and the cops excuse for not being there is that they were driving home a drunk football player?
  7. ssckelley

    ssckelley Well-Known Member

    This sucks for Reiff, he was trying to do the right thing by getting a ride home. I could see if he was being obnoxious or threatening, but he was simply drunk and trying to get an Uber home. I would hope a police officer would look the other way and try to help instead of arresting someone like that and putting them in jail.

    I say this about anybody, not just a football player.
  8. HawkGold

    HawkGold Well-Known Member

    Seriously, trying to do the right thing? He was drunk. He was doing the drunk thing which is when you do stupid impaired thinking things. Don't make him out to be a victim trying to do the right thing.

    In today's world of video recording everywhere you think most officers are going to look the other way? Seriously?

    Reiff knew the law. He is not a victim. He willingly broke the law and knew team consequences. (The nepotism issue is a whole other issue).

    He was heading into the final stretch before maybe his biggest season. He made a bad choice. He had the choice to show leadership by example. He is a human being and fallible. He chose not to be mature in his privilege situation. He needs to live with his decision. His decision may cost his team something. His decision may cost him something professionally.

    What matters is where he goes from here. He may have been a dumb young adult. He may have a drinking problem.

    Those appalled at public intoxication arrests should go visit Eastern Europe. Public intoxication is a potential public hazard on a variety of fronts including who has to pay for injuries and damages.

    Iowa Code:
    In Iowa, it is illegal to consume alcohol or be intoxicated in a public place (except in establishments licensed to serve alcohol). It is also a crime to “simulate intoxication”—take or be under the influence of controlled substances— in a public place.

    An intoxicated person has the right to take a chemical test (such as a breathalyzer or blood test) at his own expense within two hours of being arrested.

    In lieu of arrest, a police officer may offer to take a person suffering from a substance-related disorder to an appropriate facility for emergency treatment. The officer will not arrest the person for public intoxication if the person accepts help (unless the person has committed other offenses). The officer may arrest an intoxicated person who refuses help.

    (Ia. Ann. Code § 125.34.)

    Protective Custody
    When a person suffering from a substance-related disorder is likely to cause harm to himself or others, a police officer may, without warrant, take that person into protective custody for up to one day, until the person to can be checked into an appropriate treatment facility. This is also known as “emergency detention,” and can lead to release once the person “sobers up,” or enters a treatment facility, at the magistrate’s discretion.

    (Ia. Ann. Code § 125.91.)

    Public Intoxication Penalties
    Public intoxication or alcohol consumption is a simple misdemeanor in Iowa. Penalties include a fine of at least $65 (and up to $625), up to 30 days in jail, or both.

    Potential Defenses to Public Intoxication Charges
    There are several potential defenses to public intoxication charges in Iowa. Most of these focus on showing that there is little or no evidence to support one or more of the elements of the offense, as explained above. Some common examples are explained below.

    Not intoxicated. A defendant may argue that he was not intoxicated at the time of the arrest. But because juries and judges tend to believe the testimony of the arresting officer, this defense can be hard to substantiate unless the defendant has concrete evidence (such as a blood alcohol test) showing that he was not intoxicated.

    Not a public place. A defendant may also show that the arrest was not made in a public place, or that the defendant was involuntarily in a public place at the time of arrest. For example, a defendant may not be ordered out of his home by a law enforcement officer and onto the sidewalk, and then arrested for public intoxication.

    Prescription medication. Finally, defendants may argue that at the time of the arrest, they were under the influence of a medication taken as directed while under the care of a licensed physician. For example, if the defendant was under the influence of "laughing gas" from a recent dental procedure, he may have a valid defense.

  9. Hawkfnntn

    Hawkfnntn Well-Known Member

    Amen... And I can't sit here and say with any definitiveness that I'd have done what I suggest they should either. I was a pretty mature guy at a young age I'm not trying to brag up myself too much by saying that. I was saving and purchased my first house at 22 on my own and never been in trouble with the law. (lets say I never got caught) So I would have had those thoughts in my head at the time but would I have done it and stuck to it for 4 yrs with the temptations I never really had tugging on me? Hard to say now that I'm pushing 39....
  10. MiniMoeHawk

    MiniMoeHawk Well-Known Member

    How long have you been hosting AA meetings? You act like you’ve never driven 3 mph over the speed limit.
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  11. Fryowa

    Fryowa Well-Known Member

    Don’t go all social justice warrior on us and start exaggerating. No one here said he was a victim. We just said it sucks for him because his intentions were to ride instead of drive. It would suck for anyone. That’s it; nothing more.

    And if we’re being honest here, if we are to stick to the absolute letter of the law, you could be arrested for providing medical advice without a license.

    Your armchair lawyering, while ridiculous and making you sound stupid, isn’t probably illegal because it’s just blowhard commentary. So I’ll leave that one alone.

    Look, we get that you fancy yourself to be a renaissance man who’s versed in mental health, tort law, parenting mentally challenged kids (by your admission), sports coaching, sports officiating, financial planning, and no doubt a myriad of other areas probably ranging from foreign relations to malaria eradication. But don’t be that guy.

    Don’t be that ridiculous EMT friend that everyone has who starts throwing out medical terms and how to open someone’s airway and put them on a backboard after they stub their toe. The harder you try to sound educated the dumber you come off. Surely with all of your life experience and psychological training you’d have come to understand that by now, am I right?
  12. HawkGold

    HawkGold Well-Known Member

    He's not a victim. Get over it. And no, I've never been drunk. Rarely had alcohol, but I have personal reasons for it. At 21 I was forced just into my career to begin to foreclose on 3 families including a very nice MN farm family who went bankrupt due to their son who was about 22 making a tractor mistake and killing a teenage girl and they were inadequately insured. Reiff needs to grow up.

    He's been given a huge gift in talent and a chance to make something big for himself. Stupid decision. Hopefully he learns from the mistake. Making him a victim is silly.
  13. HawkGold

    HawkGold Well-Known Member

    Actually yes they did. There aren't many on here as dumbass sounding as you trying to sound like a more red kneck HF. You have a separate set of rules. Your egocentric comments and then coming after others for saying the same thing only with the HF accent.
  14. Hawkfnntn

    Hawkfnntn Well-Known Member

    Yeah after hearing about what happened I do too... If he was trying to bash their windows in or getting belligerent and physical that's one thing. I dunno that said he blew a .2 something. That's beyond wasted and it just depends on how he was acting....
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  15. HawkGold

    HawkGold Well-Known Member

    OK he was .2 or higher What does that take?

    12 beers in one hour at 240 pounds.

    .20 BAC Out of it. Confused. Dizzy. Requires help to stand or walk. If injured may not feel the pain. Nausea and vomiting. The gag reflex is impaired and you can choke if you do vomit. Blackouts are likely.
    0.25 BAC All mental, physical and sensory functions are severely impaired. Near total loss of motor function control. Increased risk of asphyxiation from choking on vomit and of seriously injuring yourself by falls or other accidents.
  16. Fryowa

    Fryowa Well-Known Member

    Dumbass I won't argue.

    "Red kneck" is absurd. I don't recall anything I've said that would put me in the red kneck category, but like always I could be wrong.

    Egocentric? Now you're stretching it. I think you're still trying to cling to your inner (wannabe) psychiatrist. Give it up. No one came here to have Alan Dershowitz type out and interpret Iowa Code or get diagnoses from Sigmund Freud.
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  17. MiniMoeHawk

    MiniMoeHawk Well-Known Member

    It is all about tolerance. There are people out there with .25 BAC that function better then people who have had two beers.
  18. Fryowa

    Fryowa Well-Known Member

    So, what are you trying to do here?

    Justify the tuition you spent getting your addiction counseling degree? Oh don't have one of those.

    Tell us that he was really drunk? We knew that.

    Provide us a moral compass to follow and show us the err of our ways, and how Rieff is triple guilty because he got really drunk? No one here came here for either of those things.

    Hear yourself yell from a soapbox that no one's around? Yep.
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  19. Fryowa

    Fryowa Well-Known Member

    @HawkGold is the definitive authority on mental health and substance abuse. Just ask him; he'll tell you.

    Hi un-cited Google cut/paste skills are second to none.
  20. HawkGold

    HawkGold Well-Known Member

    No just reacting the ridiculous statements about how the police were wrong and then you jumped in.