Grad transfer impacts

Discussion in 'Basketball' started by TheIowaHawkGuy, Jun 10, 2019.


Who will have a greater impact for their team?

  1. Isaiah Moss at Kansas

    5 vote(s)
  2. Bakari Evelyn at Iowa

    21 vote(s)
  1. TheIowaHawkGuy

    TheIowaHawkGuy Well-Known Member

    Interested in who will have a bigger impact next season. Although from sounds of it from Hawk Central, HN, and others Evelyn may just be a backup at this point.
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  2. PCHawk

    PCHawk Well-Known Member

    I dont know who Kansas has at guard, but if Moss plays more than spot minutes, Self must have had serious recruiting issues. I'm predicting Bakari, but it's so hard to say because so much depends on how good CJ is and whoever Kansas has.
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  3. NikeHawk21

    NikeHawk21 Well-Known Member

    Kansas is bringing him in as an outside shooting threat. As an outside shooter he is very good.

    I guess I would just say not every team in the nation has the same makeup as Iowa in terms of skills. You mention about his crappy ball handling which I don’t totally disagree with, but if he plays on a team with ball handlers and guys who can create their own off the bounce, the lack of those abilities will be less noticeable than they were on Iowa.

    He has the size to play both the two and the three. If he is asked to spot up and shoot threes and play in transition I think he can be solid. He can be a good defender when he commits to it.
  4. MelroseHawkins

    MelroseHawkins Well-Known Member

    Moss might get lost in the shuffle a bit at Kansas. As with PCHawk, I'm not sure of the situation. Moss at times can have consistency issues which will see how that wears on Self.

    With Evelyn, we know the deficiencies at that position at Iowa, not just depth but also certain skillset such as penetrating to shoot or pass. Also, we are not sure of Jo Bo's health status for next year. I voted for Evelyn.
  5. Stanzi

    Stanzi Well-Known Member

    Evelyn will have more opportunity than Moss. Every player on Kansas was a more highly rated recruit than Moss. He'll provide 12 to 15 minutes off the bench and occasionally provide some scoring. Evelyn will easily see 20+ minutes per game and his sophomore stat line of 13-3-3 doesn't seem too far fetched.
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  6. PCHawk

    PCHawk Well-Known Member

    I agree that he would be better off in that role. He just won't be anywhere near "the man" on the team. He is moving on to try to be Kline from Purdue, at best. Nothing wrong with that at all. I just don't know if he knows that's what he's doing.
  7. HawkGold

    HawkGold Well-Known Member

    Good fits for both teams. One doesnt have to deal with the coach s son.

    One wanted to create his own shot. The other does. That will be interesting to see how it plays out.

    Self never has liked just shooters.
  8. Jason Rann

    Jason Rann Well-Known Member

    Moss is going to have to play MUCH better defense if he is going to get minutes at KU.
  9. MelroseHawkins

    MelroseHawkins Well-Known Member

    Agree. I think it benefits both teams. One doesn't have to deal with the coache's sons, but the other does now.

    Funny as Fran really seeks out shooters. Different philosophies I guess.
  10. MelroseHawkins

    MelroseHawkins Well-Known Member

    That would be interesting to watch and good point.
  11. BryceC

    BryceC Well-Known Member

    IMO Moss is going to start and play ~25 MPG on a top 10 team next year that's probably going to win the Big 12 by 3+ games.
  12. Stanzi

    Stanzi Well-Known Member he's not. He's not a good defender and can't create his own shot. If he's playing 25 MPG Kansas sure as heck isn't a top 10 team.
  13. BryceC

    BryceC Well-Known Member

    They aren't going to ask him to be a great defender or to get his own shot. What is your minute breakdown for KU next year?
  14. Stanzi

    Stanzi Well-Known Member

    They won’t ask him to play defense or create his own shot? Why’d they sign him then? Your post doesn’t really make sense.
  15. BryceC

    BryceC Well-Known Member

    They won't ask him to create his own shot. No. They obviously know what kind of defender he is, and I'm assuming he will get help they'll find ways to scheme around it, just like they did with Svi.

    What do you think the minutes look like next year for the 2/3 positions for KU?
  16. smitharooney

    smitharooney Well-Known Member

    I would be shocked if he gets quality minutes. I'm thinking Riley Till minutes
  17. BryceC

    BryceC Well-Known Member

    Again, who on KU is playing all of these minutes over Moss?
  18. EstronHawkKing

    EstronHawkKing Well-Known Member

    It will be really weird when Iowa faces Kansas in the Final 4 next year.
  19. PCHawk

    PCHawk Well-Known Member

    If they don't have enough 2s and 3s to keep Moss from getting 25 minutes, who the heck do they have at the 1, 4, and 5? Lottery picks? They must if they are that weak at two positions and still gunna be top 10.
  20. revkev73

    revkev73 Well-Known Member

    Moss has a dream of being an NBA player. He didn't think, perhaps rightly so, another year at Iowa would offer that. He thinks Kansas will provide an arena to showcase his NBA talents. Perhaps it will happen, perhaps it will not.

    Bottom line, follow your dream, it is your life. Another bottom line, bouncing around most often doesn't have a happy ending.

    I hope he has a realistic and successful plan B in place for his life.

    If he becomes a shooting star at Kansas, I will certainly cheer for him.

    I also don't like Iowa to have unhappy and unfulfilled players on the roster. I am glad he is gone, as well.