How many of you would trade Doyle for Wisconsin's S&C coach?

Discussion in 'Football' started by #1DieHardHawk, Nov 10, 2019.

  1. eveningnewsteam

    eveningnewsteam Well-Known Member

    You would think it would piss Ferentz off to see a Wisconsin program he use to beat, pull even and now miles ahead of the Iowa program. Idk, maybe it doesn’t piss him off. That’s football I guess
  2. okeefe4prez

    okeefe4prez Well-Known Member

    You see it all the time. Dudes who built a company and want to see it succeed live and die with the company. They hire some outsider and pay them a ton and the new guy is aloof. Once you make a certain amount of money you don't give a shit anymore.
  3. NCCHawk

    NCCHawk New Member

    Since we are dealing in hypotheticals that will never happen, I’d like to trade Nate Stanley for CJ Beathard.
  4. HuckFinn

    HuckFinn Well-Known Member

    Wahoo! Team Caddy has added yet another firing to the list that would ultimately solve all of our problems! The List: The Big Donors, The Regents, The U of I President, The Athletic Director, Kirk Ferentz, the remainder of the football staff, now adding Doyle, Fran McCaffrey, Fran’s assistants, any member of Hawkeye Nation who supports, or says anything positive about the above individuals. As I have proposed before, block these idiots and interact with the variety of posters who constructively criticize our coaches, and the many who really know something about FB and BB. Join the group who learns good stuff daily. Thanks to many posters who have helped me understand our programs better.
  5. #1DieHardHawk

    #1DieHardHawk Well-Known Member

    Maybe, but I think this is a bit of a reach. Most linemen have knee issues off and on, and I don't recall either of the twins missing a substantial amount of time repetitively. They're both very laid back, almost to the point of being kind of goofy, which can be a hindrance to being competitive and focused, so perhaps Doyle tried but wasn't always getting that drive and intensity he requires. Good guys and good teammates, but never driven to be dominant football players.

    In terms of the original point, from a fan perspective, it does seem that our opponents have caught up to us in terms of S&C. Wisconsin is bigger, faster and more explosive at almost every position, and have been for the last 6-7 seasons.

    Except for a few exceptions (Wirfs, etc.) we just don't see the same degree of physical transformations that we used to. Early in Kirk's tenure, I don't recall seeing any of our offensive linemen get literally knocked on their butts in protection, or our defensive linemen being pushed around at will.
  6. Motigerhawk

    Motigerhawk Well-Known Member

    Shoot, then we lose our starting MLB,
  7. eveningnewsteam

    eveningnewsteam Well-Known Member

    I went back at watched the game. Not sure I’ve seen worse play from the mike LB at Iowa since Ferentz has been here.
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  8. MelroseHawkins

    MelroseHawkins Well-Known Member

    I've always wondered how much the "Rhabdo" situation played into this. They seemed to have fallen back since then. Did changes made after that effect the toughness of this team? Iowa used to be the Bullies of the BIG 10, then Mich St. came into the picture to take that title away from Iowa which they did for a few years, then Fitz and NW. Wisky's been tough the entire time. What used to be a .500 series between Iowa vs Wisky now is a gap for Wisky. This has happened since Rhabdo.
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  9. MelroseHawkins

    MelroseHawkins Well-Known Member

    Same shit is going to happen in basketball as well. Do people realize how hard it is to find or how rare it is to have multiple Div 1 quality basketball players from the same school or area. Do people really think one family is going to have two legit Div 1 basketball players in it? Then add the buddy of one of the players growing up. It's hard to believe.

    Will see how it works out with that team as well.
  10. MelroseHawkins

    MelroseHawkins Well-Known Member

    To take a phrase away from the acting circles, Iowa is definitely "type-casted". The blueprint has been layed and teams now know how to stop Iowa. It's just been too many years of the same ole, same ole. Who the hell wouldn't think teams would eventually figure it out. The fact that Iowa doesn't recognize that and think it can stay the same is a bit disconcerting at this point.
  11. MoseSchrute

    MoseSchrute Well-Known Member

    I've thought about this a little for a while. I think they are very high quality individuals, but I really wonder if they lack the attitude and aggression to make good linemen.
  12. revkev73

    revkev73 Well-Known Member

    You can see The Gophers coming in the rear view mirror. But their coach is an idiot I've heard. We will see if he can coach the Gophers past the Neolithic Kirkball Age. Big opportunity for Kirk/Brian/Nate this weekend. The curse of the O-word.
  13. westender

    westender Well-Known Member

    Believe you are confused. He could build linemen like Wisconsin has, but that is not Kirk's mold. Kirk likes them lighter and more mobile. Is what it is man. It is Kirk.
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2019
  14. Jonrn

    Jonrn Well-Known Member

    I’d trade our AD for every AD in America
  15. Jonrn

    Jonrn Well-Known Member

    absolutely! Doyle is a great coach, however Wisconsin has the same recruiting advantages/disadvantages as Iowa and have dominated Iowa physically on both lines for years.
  16. okeefe4prez

    okeefe4prez Well-Known Member

    Wisconsin's population is almost double Iowa's and Wisconsin is the only game in town for recruiting. Plus, they have a good draw into eastern Minnesota.
  17. Jonrn

    Jonrn Well-Known Member

    wisconsin basically is Iowa with Milwaukee and that’s not a football factory city. Iowa has the same proximity to Minnesota as Wisconsin. Milwaukee doesn’t have the football recruits that stl, KC and the MSP have.
  18. MoseSchrute

    MoseSchrute Well-Known Member

    Doyle is one of the strengths of the program. This clip seems to be an indictment of our scheme or Polasek. You see this crap in high school...just terrible. Block the man in front of you!