I knew we were in trouble when Olaseni fouled out

Discussion in 'Basketball' started by hawkeye12345, Dec 14, 2013.

  1. hawkeye12345

    hawkeye12345 Well-Known Member

    What, he didn't foul out you say? Then why in the world did we once again go small and let McCabe get dominated like a pitbull on a poodle? WTF?!?!?

    We have two legit C's on this team. Unless and only UNLESS those two are in foul trouble one of them should be on the floor.

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  2. HawkIPA

    HawkIPA Well-Known Member

    What a stupid rant. Nobody was getting stops in the 2nd half last night but you want to single out McCabe?
     
  3. Hawkstrat

    Hawkstrat Well-Known Member

    I've agreed with a number of things you've posted, but McCabe was bad and hurt the team. He tried to do too much.
     
  4. ssckelley

    ssckelley Well-Known Member

    McCabe had a horrible game last night but he was put in some tough situations and his shooting was off. It is not fair to pin this loss on him as he had some team mates that also contributed to the loss like missing key free throws and not securing a key rebound. So it is fair to say the team choked and not just any single player.
     
  5. LASBUR

    LASBUR Well-Known Member

    McCabe did have a tough game. But I tend to think Fran knows his personel as well as anyone on this board
     
  6. DJL

    DJL Well-Known Member

    Is it me, or did Woodbury look like he was trying to grab a greased pig every time the ball came his way?
     
  7. Hawkstrat

    Hawkstrat Well-Known Member

    Woodbury was fine yesterday.
     
  8. LASBUR

    LASBUR Well-Known Member

    I thought Woody played one of his better games
     
  9. ssckelley

    ssckelley Well-Known Member

    I agree
     
  10. linus19

    linus19 Well-Known Member

    I agree. This was Woodbury's best offensive performance this season.
     
  11. RocknRollface

    RocknRollface Well-Known Member

    At some point youd think Fran would learn. Inserting Mcabe at center at the end of games has resulted in nothing but losses.
     
  12. GrandpaHawk

    GrandpaHawk Well-Known Member

    Yes Zach had a bad game,it happens I'm sure he feels bad usually he makes most of those shots.He'll bounce back and I'm sure the team will be fine.Go Hawks
     
  13. sportstalent

    sportstalent Well-Known Member

    Tough is an understatement.
     
  14. HawkIPA

    HawkIPA Well-Known Member

    Dont you find it silly that you constantly complain about people ripping on Oglesby and Woodbury but you take every little shot you can at McCabe?
     
  15. sportstalent

    sportstalent Well-Known Member

    I really don't take shots at him, it was more than a tough game. If you call saying he still plays bad defense a shot them, I won't post anything else about him. He has found his sophomore stroke after having an awful shooting year. If you go back and read, I have been very complimentary to him this season. Truth is not ripping, making 10 threads a game about players and placing blame on that player for winning or losing is ripping a player. At no point have I ever blamed a loss on one or two players, get a clue.

    You smell alty, since you joined in Nov of this year.
     
  16. hawkeye12345

    hawkeye12345 Well-Known Member

    A bad game is an understatement to say the least. He got dominated on the defensive side and couldn't throw a pebble in the ocean to save his life last night.

    I'm not pinning this loss on McCabe, I'm saying that the coach made a terrible decision with playing McCabe at the C position once Woody fouled out of the game. ISU made 6 free throws and a layup in the final two minutes of the game. They had nothing to fear inside the paint.

    McCabe went O-fer last night. His shot was not falling and we had no inside presence once Woody left the game. If his shot isn't going down then he is a liability on the floor (see Ogleswinkel for additional reference).

    This is now the 2nd game this season that we have gone small to close out the game with a lead and lost. I hope that Fran sees the mistake and stays big going forward.
     
  17. HawkIPA

    HawkIPA Well-Known Member

    You take more subtle shots at McCabe than most other people take at Woody, Oglesby, etc.I never said you pinned this loss or any other loss on him or any other player. And FYI, long time lurker fairly new poster.Or I might be an alt. I will let you decide.
     
  18. sportstalent

    sportstalent Well-Known Member

    You seriously believe that I do, honestly?

    I am probably one of about, one who doesn't give Zach a free pass from honest analysis because he is a "warrior" and "plays his tail off" analysis is what it is, huge difference from starting the same thread after every loss and a lot of wins.

    If you were around either way last season, you would know this.
     
  19. HawkIPA

    HawkIPA Well-Known Member

    Honestly, I do.
     
  20. sportstalent

    sportstalent Well-Known Member

    My comment was based on someone saying he had a tough night...Zach had the worst game of his career...get a clue.
     
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