Iowa's Great Offensive Line and Senior QB

Discussion in 'Football' started by MelroseHawkins, Oct 14, 2019.

  1. SCHawkeye2

    SCHawkeye2 Well-Known Member

    Despite the pre-season hype, I have seen nothing from Wirfs or Jackson this year to indicate they are NFL level talent.
  2. N8theGr8

    N8theGr8 Well-Known Member

    Wirfs has been solid all year, but you can't be a one man show on the offensive line. The confusion up front has been the only thing that's caused any poor play from Wirfs. Jackson hasn't shown anything yet this year, but he's been thrown straight into the fire these past 2 games. He'll keep improving throughout the year and get drafted on measurables plus his performance in the last 7 games.

    Linderbaum is an absolute monster though. I don't know if you can find grades for individual players anywhere, but I'd have to imagine he's been one of our best linemen. Any time we have a 3rd or 4th and 1, just line Stanley up behind him and let him go to work. Even in pass protection, he's typically not the one getting beat. I would not be surprised to see him go pro after next season.
  3. MelroseHawkins

    MelroseHawkins Well-Known Member

    Remember the string of pix 6's that Stanzi threw? He had a problem with them at one time. Yet, he'd shrug it off and come in the next series and thread the needle for a TD. That guy had moxie and was fun to watch.
  4. Motigerhawk

    Motigerhawk Well-Known Member

    Remember when the one OL won the national award for offensive line of the year and we were like What?

    There is a lot of hype around our coaching staff and their ability to get guys to the pros. Which is fantastic. But I think it is 80% the kid and 20% the coaching.
  5. HuckFinn

    HuckFinn Well-Known Member

    yeah, well, your base line assumption is that you are a good judge of their performance. Good luck with that.
  6. ssckelley

    ssckelley Well-Known Member

    Yeah I thought that audible was odd too. If he would have audibled to a running back screen it would have been a 20 yard gain.

    I'm not a Stanley fan but the offensive woes are not on him. I've not seen Iowa's offensive line be this bad in a long time, I can't remember when it's been this bad.
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  7. dirtwrap

    dirtwrap Well-Known Member

    You know we haven't really been blitzed that much. I know it looks like it, but if you go back and look you will count 4 defenders being blocked by 5 or 6 if you count the back or TE or 7 if by both. That is a page right out of our own defensive philosophy, stop the run and pressure the quarterback with the front four and make the quarterback make throws into tight windows. That is exactly what is happening to us.

    Think about it, if we took the Iowa off the uniforms and we were going to play ourselves, we would all think it is a perfect matchup. Quarterback that cant run, no running back that can either run with power or make you miss, and a weakness in the interior of the line. What we would do is give them the short throws, make them convert on third down, make them take chances going down the field and capitalize on their mistakes because we know they cant be perfect the entire game.

    You really have to give our offense some credit too. They have had to earn and grind out every yard. We have lost the field position battle, started deep in our territory a lot more than our opponents, haven't benefitted from short fields via turnovers or impact special teams plays, hardly any run yardage after the catch and virtually no running game, and they still have converted on a lot of difficult third downs and moved the ball. We are very limited with what we can do with what we have, as we have glaring weaknesses that a talented opponent can and has exploited.
  8. uihawk82

    uihawk82 Well-Known Member

    Haha, for a pro style offense we do not hardly ever run draws or run them well.

    Even a behind the LOS shovel pass might slow the rush if you can get the runner/receiver to catch it flying by a rusher and break a good gain.

    But usually 3 receiver bunch formations with quick slants and outs are what teams are successful with now.
  9. uihawk82

    uihawk82 Well-Known Member

    Dont forget Drew Tate who was quick, pretty fast, had moves and was elusive.

    Kirk cant control running qbs which probably bothers him.
  10. okeefe4prez

    okeefe4prez Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I agree. When you have a guy like that #54 from PSU who has the snap count down and only gets blocked a third of the time, there's really no reason to blitz too much. The math is really simple, you get some plays where the guard and center double one guy, the other guard goes to block a LB who ain't blitzing and ends up blocking the air, one of the tackles gets beat and the RB whiffs on his chip, it's pretty easy to get pressure while bringing 4. I wonder if Brohm will have the balls to just bring 3 after the film we have out there.
  11. Caddy

    Caddy Well-Known Member

    Really? Petras throws a better ball than Stanley, also broke all of Jared Goffs passing records in California, which is much better competition than Stanley played against in high school. Petras is the real deal.
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  12. Xerxes

    Xerxes Well-Known Member

    So he was a good high school player? Wow somebody better hold me up.

    When have you seen him throw a better ball than Stanley as a college player? The guy has barely played.
  13. Robowe

    Robowe Well-Known Member

    And Boyle got hurt running the ball this year for Indiana State.
  14. ChosenChildren

    ChosenChildren Well-Known Member

    I watched every game Rudock played. He locked in on his first option as well, but didn't have Beathard's mobility. Beathard should have played the entire season in 2014.

    Beathard never would have played if he hadn't threatened to transfer. You are engaging in revisionist history.
  15. hawkeyebob62

    hawkeyebob62 Well-Known Member

    Wrong. Beathard, once flushed, never looked downfield. Rudock did, but he didn't have CJBs arm strength. Once they were sure CJB was better maintaining downfield vision when flushed, they were more than ready. He got more snaps in the Ghastly Slayer Bowl, and was already getting increased snaps later in the season.
  16. hawkeyebob62

    hawkeyebob62 Well-Known Member

    Do you know the difference between their 40 times, BTW? .01 (4.86 vs. 4.87) That's one hundredth of a second. What hurt Rudock, mobility-wise, is he couldn't get his knee back to full strength. If you'll notice when he got to Michigan, he was more mobile. Basically had a whole Spring to rehab while finishing his academic stuff at Iowa. No contact, no drills, etc. Add to that no worries about any real QB competition at Michigan, the kid was totally relaxed.