Is Iowa scrambling in the 2020 class?

Discussion in 'Basketball' started by NikeHawk21, Jul 22, 2019.

  1. revkev73

    revkev73 Well-Known Member

    Fran is a long, long way from being on a hot seat. This is Iowa.
     
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  2. Linesetter

    Linesetter Well-Known Member

    Wisconsin has the #1 rated recruiting class in the country in 2021.
     
  3. hawkeyebob62

    hawkeyebob62 Well-Known Member

    Why, you looking to do a selfless test run? :)
     
  4. Ian Pike Hammer

    Ian Pike Hammer Well-Known Member

    Why, oh why didn't she have quadruplets?
     
  5. Zstatman

    Zstatman Well-Known Member

    I keep thinking to myself that if we were to start getting some of these recruits to commit, and they all seem worthy, that we'll have to start showing some on the current roster the door. That's never fun and it's major spin control but it would get done.

    I do believe Fran is recruiting the type of players that would move us up in the pecking order of B1G talent.
     
  6. NikeHawk21

    NikeHawk21 Well-Known Member

    I don’t think we need to show anyone the door. Kriener, Evelyn, Bohannon, Pemsl, Garza all will graduate within the next couple years and Wieskamp isn’t likely a four year guy. Plenty of spots and opportunities available without “creaning” anybody.
     
  7. NikeHawk21

    NikeHawk21 Well-Known Member

    On the good news front one of the national rivals guys put in their version of the crystal ball (futurecast) for Xavier Foster to Iowa today.
     
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  8. deanvogs

    deanvogs Well-Known Member

    Foster, Sibley and Ulis would be an amazing recruiting class.
     
  9. JG10Hawk

    JG10Hawk Well-Known Member

    As we all figured...
     
  10. Zstatman

    Zstatman Well-Known Member

    Kriener and Evelyn are the only for sure guys not coming back next year.

    JBo could come back, play a few games then get a medical redshirt or not come back at all this year.

    I'm assuming Garza and Pemsl both come back next year but you never know.
     
  11. NikeHawk21

    NikeHawk21 Well-Known Member

    Iowa has an open scholarship this year as well, so they have at least three to play with to get to the 13 limit next year.

    Also, Till may not have been promised a scholarship for anything more than this season.

    We have plenty of flexibility with scholarships.
     
  12. tmess1989

    tmess1989 Well-Known Member

    I believe the point was that those players were all gone in 2 years.

    None of this matters though if Fran doesn't get any of these kids. Often we are in the picture late for highly rated recruits but only a couple out of state highly sought after kids have actually committed to Iowa. Before we worry about recruiting over current players, let's actually land the recruits that would in theory be better than current players on the team.
     
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  13. WinOneThisCentury

    WinOneThisCentury Well-Known Member

    Well...I guess at least Fran's wife can play defense.
     
  14. NikeHawk21

    NikeHawk21 Well-Known Member

    Well it sounds like Iowa has narrowed in on Foster, Ogundele, and Tony Perkins who is visiting this weekend.

    Without Foster and with those other two id give that class a D+ / C- grade. Really rough go for Fran and company. If they do land Foster and those other two id say that’s a solid B / B+ grade.

    Guard recruiting still seems to be an absolute struggle. Ulis’s best offer outside of Iowa was DePaul. Perkins bets offer outside of Iowa is Bradley and he’s rated sub 350. We really better hope Toussaint and Frederick are as good as some of the hype we are hearing, but we just can’t really convince any top end guards to come to Iowa.
     
  15. deanvogs

    deanvogs Well-Known Member

    If Fran gets all those guys, it is his absolute typical class. 3 fallbacks and 1 good player.
     
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  16. NikeHawk21

    NikeHawk21 Well-Known Member

    Agreed. But locking down a big time player like Foster would be solid. I’m actually intrigued by the Ogundele kid, but like I said we seem to be able to produce quality big men.

    The kids we are bringing in at the guard spots don’t appear that impressive. I’m not that big of fan of Ulis’s tape, and this Perkins kid plays in Indy and has hardly any attention.

    I mean if you really go back to last year Toussaint was a fallback that didn’t have a ton of looks either. I know we are excited for him but he wasn’t a high level recruit either.
     
  17. N8theGr8

    N8theGr8 Well-Known Member

    I'm a big fan of Ulis's apparent work ethic and athleticism though. Just don't like his shooting stats and he's still working on his handle. Never hurts to have an NBA guard cheering on your team/stopping by for some practices though.

    And despite the lack of attention (probably due to mediocre stats), I actually love Perkin's tape. He clearly has things to work on, but he likes to initiate contact and has some sweet dunks/finishes high off glass in those situations, and shows off a few shots with shooters touch where they die on the rim and fall in. You can't coach those things.

     
  18. NikeHawk21

    NikeHawk21 Well-Known Member

    You’re certainly entitled to your opinion. Neither guy I would consider above average athletically. Compared to Iowa’s typical guards maybe, but compared to other P5 teams I’d say they are just average athletically, Perkins maybe slightly above average.

    On Ulis to me he almost seems too robotic out there. Like he’s predetermined his move or something. I just don’t think he has a great feel for the game. To me he’s kind of a tweener 1/2, personally he doesn’t look like a true point guard but as you mentioned his shot needs work. I’ll give you the work ethic hopefully he will keep improving.

    I just watched the Perkins tape again and there was some things I liked for sure. Still though his shot is pretty slow and apparently he’s only 6’3.

    Either way aren’t we kind of taking flyers here? Lightly recruited guys sometimes can turn out to be much better than their ranking, but at what point are we going to land a can’t miss 4* type guy in the backcourt? It just really hasn’t happened.
     
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  19. SteveGarvey1

    SteveGarvey1 Well-Known Member

    Has a slightly funky looking shot from 3 and we only see the ones that go in but that works for some guys. He is more athletic, at least, than most guards Fran has brought in. Same with Ulis.
     
  20. deanvogs

    deanvogs Well-Known Member

    Have we ever grabbed a highly ranked guard? I mean you go back to Gessel, he was top 100. After that here is what we land at Guard:

    Clemmons
    Ingram
    Jok
    Dickerson
    Ellinsgon
    C. Williams
    Fleming
    Moss
    Hutton
    Dailey
    Bohannon
    McCaffery
    Fredrick
    Wieskamp
    Toussaint

    I mean that is flat out embarrassing. In nearly a decade of recruiting Fran has brought in 2 top 100 guards in Gessel and Wieskamp. Sure Jok was good, Bohannon has been good, Moss was ok. The rest is brutally bad recruiting (or still a wait and see on a few yet).
     
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