MLK Jr and George

Discussion in 'Basketball' started by hawkdrummer1, Jan 21, 2019.

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  1. hawkdrummer1

    hawkdrummer1 Well-Known Member

    I'm sure many of you know this, but some may not.

    George Raveling (Iowa bball coach from '83-'86) grew up in Washington DC. At the famous "March on Washington" in 1963 where Dr Martin Luther King Jr delivered his "I have a dream" speech, Raveling worked security on the podium. After Dr. King finished and began to exit the stage, Raveling asked if he could have the speech. King handed Raveling the original typewritten paper. Raveling still has the original and has been offered as much as a Million dollars for it.
  2. karras

    karras Well-Known Member

    I remember that guy. He said he hoped for a future where every time someone looked at another person they were noticing character rather than skin pigment. Holy Christ did the USA collectively say F U to his dream every day since his passing.
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  3. hawkdrummer1

    hawkdrummer1 Well-Known Member

    I respectfully disagree.
  4. karras

    karras Well-Known Member

    Actually you just nailed the problem eloquently with your reply.

    Public discourse is at at an all time low. Understanding of history is at an all time low. Integrity in science at an all time low. Every institution is hyper-politicized and seeking power rather than objective truth. China ascendant and America regressive. The fundamental building block of society, the nuclear biological family has been decimated and America is engaged in a permanent oppression Olympics. And a holocaust of innocent lives 6 times greater than that of WW2, with the perpetrators hailed as heroes. If you think that's a realization of his dream . . . well I respectfully disagree.
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  5. hawks23

    hawks23 Well-Known Member

    I didn't know this. Interesting.
  6. hawkdrummer1

    hawkdrummer1 Well-Known Member

    You site many important things, but your initial inference that racism is worse than (or as bad as) it was in 1963 simply isn't true. The mainstream media and political opportunists love to inflame things and create a perception that that's the case (and many people willingly drink it up) but it isn't. "Reality" is not what you're shown on the evening news.

    People of all races are so much more integrated in our every way. We work together, play together, live next door to each other, our kids hang out together, interracial relationships of all kinds are common place. Many make the mistake of comparing the current landscape to "perfection" (which is as foolish as it is unrealistic). Of course racism still every corner of the world. But 2018 America is much different that 1963 America.
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  7. Hillcrest1981

    Hillcrest1981 Well-Known Member

    Yes, better now than in 1963. However if you look at racism with this current administration like you look at the NCAA top 25 rankings you'll see racism is trending up^
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  8. Northside Hawk

    Northside Hawk Well-Known Member

    USA Today had a story on this a while back. Raveling was not a person to mess with. It's too bad he wasn't in Memphis in 1968.
  9. karras

    karras Well-Known Member

    We live in a society where your immutable traits trump your character because it has been codified into law so that even fair-minded people aren't allowed to make that their first consideration when interacting with their fellow citizen. We've done pretty much the opposite of what he hoped for. Hey, the upside is we can agree to disagree without burning each other's city to the ground. I guess that makes us role models.;)
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