Wow. Fran must be feeling some heat for missing out on DJ

Discussion in 'Basketball' started by lightning1, Jul 31, 2018.

  1. lightning1

    lightning1 Well-Known Member

    Offers flying out to 2019 PGs left and right. Yuri Colins, Bryan Greenlee and Joe Toussaint. I guess these are the fall backs to plan B.
     
  2. ArvadaHawk

    ArvadaHawk Well-Known Member

    i don't think he's feeling heat. i think we just finished the july open eval period and they've seen a lot of new '19 pg's. not saying there is no heat. but i don't think that's the driving force behind offering many '19 pgs this week.
     
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  3. lightning1

    lightning1 Well-Known Member

    One of these kids doesn't even have a national recruiting profile. I'm sure he just exploded on to the scene at some tournament, that Fran happened to be at.
     
  4. ArvadaHawk

    ArvadaHawk Well-Known Member

    fran and his staff were all over the place the last 3 weeks. from WI to GA to CA and points in between. they watched a lot...i mean a LOT of '19, '20 and '21 kids. the staff is working hard for the '19 class.
     
  5. lightning1

    lightning1 Well-Known Member

    I'm sure they are. Their futures depend on it. But these recruits are fall backs to plan B. Plain and simple. Dante Eldridge is at least as good as these guys and he's right in Fran's back yard.
     
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  6. Northside Hawk

    Northside Hawk Well-Known Member

    This would sure seem to indicate that he wants a point guard for '19 even as there are other predictions that he would wait until '20. He's going to need a little of everything with the incoming '20 class based on the current projection of players lost to graduation and it wouldn't hurt to land some ball handling, penetrating ability, and perimeter defense for both years. Yes he knows what's at stake and he is really putting his money where his mouth is with comments on his returning team for next year.
    The transferring of Wagner and Ellenson as well as the probable early entry of Cook after '19 opens up several schollies and this is the time to be thinking about who to offer them to.
     
  7. tksirius

    tksirius Well-Known Prostitute

    Locure's better than all these guys Fran's offering. Coulda shoulda...
     
  8. Northside Hawk

    Northside Hawk Well-Known Member

    You know my stance on Locure, love his offense, concerns about his defense. But yes it wouldn't have hurt Fran to offer him.

    You get the feeling sometimes that a poker player could bluff Fran into folding a full house and win the hand with a pair of kings!
     
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  9. lightning1

    lightning1 Well-Known Member

    I like Eldridge better than Locure.
     
  10. PCHawk

    PCHawk Well-Known Member

    I thought Fran didn't feel heat because Gutless Gary?
     
  11. Adam

    Adam Well-Known Member

    I liked Locure's game as you know, but with him obviously not an option I kinda like that Yuri Collins kid. He looks like he is built for B1G play. Decent quickness and proficient handles. Acceptable shot form. Good vision and ability to pass the ball from unconventional angles. As fall backs go he's not a horrible option. I see potential.
     
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  12. hawkdrummer1

    hawkdrummer1 Well-Known Member

    or maybe this is "New Fran". He finally realized point guards matter and now he's scrambling to catch up.
     
  13. Adam

    Adam Well-Known Member

    Nah, Fran is set in his ways. We gotta wait till Conner graduates to come in as an assistant and shake the old man up....Oh no! Groundhog Day!
     
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  14. Tierney

    Tierney Well-Known Member

    It sounds like Iowa isn't doing to well with the other high profile recruits. His son might be looking forward to playing baseball too. If Fran was confident in landing some of these four and five star recruits he has been involved with, I doubt he would be that enchanted with the point guards for this year. It could be that I don't know what I'm talking about too.
     
  15. lightning1

    lightning1 Well-Known Member

    Heat comes from different places. Feeling heat and fearing for his job...are 2 different things entirely.
     
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  16. NikeHawk21

    NikeHawk21 Well-Known Member

    I’ve been keeping up with recruiting and it sounded to me like the coaches were out on the trail evaluating PGs and then were planning on deciding if they were going to make some offers. Looks like they decided to offer a few guys. Simple as that.
     
  17. InGoodCo

    InGoodCo Well-Known Member

    No question these are plan B or C...ahem, DJ Carton committed else where. What else is he supposed to do? When DJ left Iowa out, a lot of you said, why waste your time on the high star kid, go get some of these under the radar PG's. You've all been railing on him for not getting some sort of PG on this team asap because of his kid. Now he goes out and offers, and he's feeling the heat? LOL. You also know that when you see all of these other teams with athletic and quick PG's all over the country at smaller schools and then say "WHY CAN'T IOWA HAVE ONE OF THOSE? WHY CAN'T FRAN FIND ANYONE EVEN SERVICEABLE WHEN THE REST OF CBB HAVE TONS OF QUICK PG'S", that those guys were 2 and 3 star kids who were over looked like these kids right? I'm personally glad they are making offers to the position of biggest need.
     
  18. SteveGarvey1

    SteveGarvey1 Well-Known Member

    I don't know anything about Greenlee so can't speak to him, but Touissaint and Collins have better offers than Locure did which suggests they're probably better than him. I'm not sure they're all that much worse than DJ.

    Touissaint's best offers appear to be UNLV and Dayton and if he doesn't get any better ones, I'd expect him to accept an offer. He was thrilled a B1G school offered him.

    Collins had an offer from Missouri and some mid-majors.

    Maybe Fran realizes he just isn't going to get any 4-5 star pgs in '19 or '20 so is gonna get a 3-star he feels pretty comfortable can make a difference here. I'm guessing he doesn't give a crap if people think it's a rebound move based on him not getting DJ.
     
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  19. InGoodCo

    InGoodCo Well-Known Member

    of course it's a rebound though...DJ committed to TOSU, what else can Fran do but try and rebound and go for plan B and C? I am glad he's not trying to wait for 20 IMO, Iowa needs help at that position immediately.
     
  20. NikeHawk21

    NikeHawk21 Well-Known Member

    If that’s the the case though, the question would be why didn’t he pursue a transfer this year? We have JBo/Cmac/Dailey/C.J. this year, and we are slated to have JBo/Cmac/Dailey/C.J. next year....
     
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